I don't have a link for this in the style of your other "why not systemd" bullet points, but this one has been griping me for YEARS since Ubuntu switched to systemd: router builds have become immensely more problematic because of systemd's tendency to not online network interfaces if it thinks something is or isn't plugged in in the wrong order.

With upstart, if you configure your interface, your interface will be online, every time. with systemd, I've ended up having to deal with weird hacks trying to force interfaces online in router builds; if you don't hold your mouth just right, systemd tends to not online either the LAN or the WAN interface immediately. If the LAN interface doesn't come online immediately as the system boots, isc-dhcp-server won't come online either, and your machines on the LAN don't get IP addresses.

I haven't been able to find a solution for this in the last several years, and it's not for lack of trying and asking!

let's document every anime girl that opposes systemd!

source

systemd/systemd#16181

How about some distros approved by FSF?
I see the Guix, but u haven't listed others.
Hyperbola uses openrc
Dragora according wikipedia uses runit

not sure about adding Parabola, it has two versions: with systemd and with openrc

MX Linux, the sister project to Antix, uses SysV by default as mentioned here.

Hello!

Excellent initiative. It would help immensely if it could avoid falling right into systemd's propaganda by confusing two very distinct concepts that can, within the same system, be sourced from different software projects:

On the one hand, we have the init (pid 1), which keeps the service manager alive, and reaps zombie processes.
See the bottom of this page for the source code of an init to run as pid 1: https://ewontfix.com/14/

On the other hand, we have the world of process/service managers, of which any one can be run by the above init, examples:

• Init scripts, yes, the /etc/init.d/yourservice stuff! That's a service manager. Not part of sysvinit, contrary to popular belief.
• The s6 service supervisor https://skarnet.org/software/s6/s6-svscan.html
• Runit's service manager, which is often used in combination with the init from sysvinit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runit#Usage

Systemd confuses, conflates and lumps these two components (and more) into one big tentacular software project.
Don't fall for it and keep making the difference!

The site had a lot of information which should be made available.

For example the List of Distributions:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190717101155/http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_distributions_without_systemd

I can set aside some time to curate these here if you give me access. Nobody seems to be objecting to this idea yet.

I wanna report it. Ataraxia linux switched to systemd service manager with latest version. you can check it out from their github group.

bests regards

Move Project Trident to be under linux distributions instead of a BSD alternative.

The Debian Wiki includes two tutorials on how to change the init system: https://wiki.debian.org/Init

I recommend either adding the guide to the first section of "How do I get rid of systemd?":

Debian Wiki: Changing the init system

Or adding two links:
Debian Wiki: Changing the init system - at installation time
Debian Wiki: Changing the init system - on a running system

I think gentoo can be safely removed from the list, since they removed opentmpfiles and they're using systemd-tmp. Same for udev (they're using systemd-udev now).

I think there ought to be separate category for distros which install with systemd by default, but can use other init systems without any problems. For example,

# apt-get install sysvinit-core sysvinit-utils
# reboot
# apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove systemd systemd-sysv libpam-systemd

Effiectively gets rid of systemd on Debian proper and the system works fine on sysvinit. The packages above can be pinned in /etc/apt/preferences.d to prevent them from being installed again. OpenSUSE also appears to have sysvinit-tools.

Hi there,

Can you consider to add obarun.org web page?
Arch based systemd with s6 and s6-rc handled by 66 as replacement of systemd.
https://skarnet.org/software/
https://framagit.org/Obarun/66
https://web.obarun.org

Have a good day :).

Eric Vidal

Hello. I'd like to know what people here think about:

• S6 (The s6 supervision suite A modern alternative to systemd) by @skarnet
• Hummingbird (GitHub repo) by @Sweets

Maybe it's a good time to add both to the list of init systems?

I think it would help bring the community together :)

Request to add Funtoo Linux, as it leverages OpenRC, to the list of nosystemd.org's alternative Linux distributions.

Thanks to popteting shit we now runs windos event linux 😂😂 It's not an off-timed April Fool's prank or anything, there is finally a systemd-bsod service for "Blue Screen of Death" full-screen error messages on Linux...

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/releases/tag/v255-rc1
https://www.phoronix.com/news/systemd-255-rc1

Project page
My thoughs: this is systemd for healthy people. And what does the community think about it?