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Meany Lodge Committee Projects & Issue Tracking
Home Page: https://www.mountaineers.org/locations-lodges/meany-lodge/
In winter of 2022, we had a child collide with a tree and suffer a concussion. He was wearing a helmet, and an adult was supervising at the top and bottom of the hill.
About 1/2 mile below the Eastern portal of the BNSF track (after the big curve, under the BPA high voltage lines, and the next major creek going under the tracks) is a culvert carrying water under the tracks. The culvert is positioned above a sluice which carries water away from the steep embankment along the tracks.
It appears the sluice has shifted and is no longer catching all the water. The side of the bank is beginning to erode. See the attached photos.
A subset of #2
To reduce the massive amounts of condensation that will prematurely rot away the purlins.
Re. the Dish Washing Station. Rick and I “fixed” (round plug, square hole issue) the leaking sink back during ski season but that was the southerly of the two. When we were working on the UV system the other weekend I noticed that there was now a bowl on the floor under the NORTH sink. Do we have a leak issue there as well? -- Ben
The most recent new leak is coming from the rinse sink. -- Bev
There are 3 leaks, north side prewash sink, north side wash sink and rinse sink. -- Alicia
A subset of #2
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See "Mechanism of action" description below.
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• Participant
Whichever calendar day the user selected is automatically selected as "present" on the form. The user may select additional days to be present.
When the Friday "present" checkbox is selected, then the Friday dinner and Saturday breakfast checkboxes are selected.
When the Saturday checkbox is selected, Saturday lunch and Saturday dinner are selected. The user may deselect any meal checkboxes (think: brown baggers, people not staying for dinner).
When Sunday is checked, the Sunday lunch checkbox is selected. If Saturday is also selected, then also check Sunday breakfast.
This has come up several times in conversations.
3G CDMA Network Shut off date set for December 31, 2022 | About Verizon.
Fellow Meanyites,
Our lodge cell phone, whose buttons sometimes work, and whose primary feature is a port for an external antenna, will stop working (details below) later this year when Verizon shuts down their 3G network.
Replacement mobile phones with an antenna port are scarce as hens teeth.
We have options:
Do nothing. Let the lodge phone go away and save $55/mo.
Replace the lodge phone with a modern (5G) cell phone. Coverage from Verizon and T-Mobile has improved at the lodge in the last year, in tandem with 5G deployments on Mt. Francis. Tether the new phone to the cell phone charging area where coverage is best.
Buy a signal booster in addition to # 2. These are notoriously unreliable, expensive, and need to get replaced every few years as phone technology changes.
VoIP. We have a low bandwidth IP network. We could add a VoIP phone that uses the IP network. Pros: VoIP works over any IP network, present and future. Cons: our existing IP network has a low bandwidth uplink so call quality would often be poor. Also, we don’t have backup power at Tow Hut so the IP network doesn’t work when the power is out.
This is an extension of # 4. Use a VoIP phone with a Dishy McFlatface from Starlink. Then we'd have reliable telephone service and broadband at Meany for $99/mo. The best view of the sky is out on the ski hill. One of the least obstructed views of the sky would be atop one of the poles on SuperWorms shed.
https://www.verizon.com/about/news/3g-cdma-network-shut-date-set-december-31-2022
3G CDMA Network Shut off date set for December 31, 2022
5G is set to revolutionize our world. It is the platform for 21st century innovation, offering almost limitless capabilities and opportunities for our customers. And with the evolution into this next phase of wireless networking and communication, comes changes to legacy technology.
Since 2016, we have stated publicly that we are actively decommissioning our 3G CDMA network. Initially, we announced we would close down our 3G network in 2019. However, we extended our shut off date - first to the end of 2020 and now to the end of 2022 - in order to care for our customers and give them every effort to minimize disruptions to their service as they move to newer and more advanced technologies.
We worked for the past several years to help those who still have 3G devices transfer to devices capable of accessing the 4G LTE or 5G networks and continue to actively work with remaining 3G customers to migrate them to new devices and technology. As a result of those efforts, we can now report that more than 99% of our customers are using the enhanced features of 4G LTE or 5G, with less than 1% still accessing the 3G network.
We’ve already communicated to customers that we are no longer allowing devices that are not 4G LTE capable to be activated on our network, so the focus now is the smooth migration of the remaining 3G devices in the market onto 4G LTE or 5G capable products and services. Additionally, we’ve already developed migration plans with most of our business customers to ensure any 3G devices they have in vehicles and equipment have been migrated to 4G LTE or 5G technology as soon as possible.
Customers who still have a 3G device will continue to be strongly encouraged to make a change now. As we move closer to the shut off date customers still accessing the 3G network may experience a degradation or complete loss of service, and our service centers will only be able to offer extremely limited troubleshooting help on these older devices.
We will turn off the last of the 3G CDMA network on December 31, 2022, months after our competitors have shut off their networks completely. The date will not be extended again. We’re communicating this again now in order to provide customers plenty of time to complete their migration.
For details about the decommissioning efforts, devices that can no longer be activated on the 3G CDMA network, and what customers can do to move to newer technology, customers are encouraged to visit https://www.verizon.com/support/knowledge-base-218813/ or reach out to a local Verizon representative today.
See also: https://history.meanylodge.org/Water
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 8:53 AM DOH EPH DW WFI ERO wrote:
Bill Ashby,
Your group A-TNC public drinking water system, Meany Lodge, AE187, Kittitas County is now listed as active.Attached you will find the letter outlining the requirements for a Group A-TNC, the WFI and recommending reading for Group A water systems.
In our efforts to transition from paper to electronic, we are sending this letter via email only and no paper copy will be mailed unless requested. If you require a paper copy, please email [email protected].
Please notice and pay attention to your required coliform bacteria and nitrate monitoring schedule in row 33 & 34 of the attached WFI. This schedule shows you the minimum number of coliform bacteria and nitrate samples your water system is required to collect and submit to a State certified lab.
Please review and if necessary, correct the attached WFI and return to this office.
To make updates, print the attached WFI and make changes in red or blue ink by simply crossing out the old information and writing the new information in the adjacent white space. Sign and date the WFI.
If you find it easier to digitally modify the attached WFI, please do so if the changes are noticeable.
You may scan and email the updated WFI back to me at [email protected].
You may download or print your WFI from our website at Sentry Internet. Please review the Quick Start Instructions, before trying to find your WFI.
Please contact me or Russell Mau, Ph.D., P.E., with any questions.
Thanks,
Sarita Preuss
Eastern Regional Office WFI Coordinator
Office of Drinking Water
Environmental Public Health
Washington State Department of Health
From: Mau, Russell E (DOH)
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2023 7:08 AM
Subject: RE: Possible Pending A-TNC: Meany Lodge Group B Water System, AE187, KittitasSarita:
At this point, the provided population numbers are from the water system – so, let’s go ahead and allow the numbers to change them to a Group A-TNC, and let’s send them the standard “welcome to the Group A-TNC world” DOH letter.
Thanks,
Russell E. Mau, PhD, PE
Regional Engineer
Office of Drinking Water
Washington State Department of Health
Noticed when we (Bev, Jim, Matt) moved Yeti (and the rest of the snow machines) from Trollhaugen to Meany on April 1st.
led by Dave Claar
There is a big need to solve the water problem below the tow hut down towards the swamp. I have marked it with tape. They could dig swales to redirect the water along the tapes. Also we could have them put in a pipe on the walking road to the lodge that melts out. I could mark that for them. Dirt could be hauled away by 4x4 driven by one of the youth—placed on the xc trails. -- Dave C.
It would be good if we could extend this project to include a better drainage scheme for Kirkwood and the Lower Lane. -- Dan N.
It would be neat if we could find somebody with surveying experience/equipment to shoot in some elevations so we could get the job without any major mistakes re the drainage direction and depth required. -- Norm V
So 3 or 4 of us come up for a day, scope out the situation, maybe even put 6 or 8 flags indicating a proposed route. Then the surveying could tell us how deep to dig at the various points and we could proceed with the actual work. -- Norm
Regarding water drainage on the hill and swamp, Greg Tudor has scoped it out last summer. He has experience in this field. I'd like for him to provide input and guidance. -- Jim F
Our water problem below the ski slope will require draining water from at least two areas. There is the ditch that drains down from the lower ski slope (culvert marks the location) and another wet spot over by the tow hut, somewhat near the power pole. There may also be a third spot. The ditch may need to go all of the way down to the running stream. -- Phil C
The existing roof is leaking. There are multiple leaks and the 1-1/8" decking is rotted through (as tested by probing with a screwdriver) in several places.
The wall of the pantry is a disaster.
Run 40' of 4" x 6" cable trays along the steel U-channel in the basement to the center of the lodge. There, join up with a new 200A Square D PON load center. Move a bunch of the loads out of the pantry load center into the basement subpanel. Then clean up that pantry wall.
The weekend of 2022-01-16, Alex De Klerk noticed some damage to our power line. We have a strand of the conductor about 18" long poking out into space.
The damaged line is between the Tow Hut and Lodge, on the lodge side of pole 6 (has steps and a fuse). As evidenced by the tree matter under the damaged spot, it was likely caused by a falling limb from the adjacent very large tree. This section of line has been damaged by limb fall before, as witnessed by two automatic splices on the conductor and another splice on the neutral line.
I visually inspected from the ground and saw two broken strands. Another observer counted three broken strands. 😬
That section of line, including both automatic splices, needs to get replaced. We have the 2 gage AAAC line already at the lodge.
Type | Life (years) | Pros / Cons |
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sodium silicate | permanent | reduces moisture movement through densification |
lithium silicate | permanent | "" |
siliconate | 7-10 | one heavy coat |
silane | 7-10 | works great below the surface |
siloxane | 7-10 | works great above surface |
silate / siloxane | 7-10 | works well above & below surface |
acrylic | 1-5 | resin quality varies widely |
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Before putting a new roof on the lodge, we'd like to expand the 5'1" x 33.4' inset on the North wall. That extra 5' of space would be a very valuable addition to the kitchen, enabling us to add a walk-in fridge and a commercial dishwasher. The latter would dramatically cut down on our paper towel usage and make the Kittitas County Health Inspectors very happy.
Hi Dave and Matt, We're in the process of firming up our auction packages for the Apr 2 gala and I had an idea. What would you think about offering a guided, snowmobile-assisted BC skiing adventure out of Meany? My sense is that we'd end up with a bidding war. In the past, one-of-a-kind, adventure experiences have been the most popular items so something like this could get a lot of interest. -- Tom Vogl
Art (wearing his BC ski leader badge) and another volunteer who’s comfortable leading trips on the snowmobile (likely Dave or Matt) will lead a day of skiing in the Meany backcountry for one. The winner must have some backcountry ski experience and provide their own gear. The outing would be scheduled for a mutually agreeable date between 11/1/22 – 4/1/23. I can offer more language and suggested restrictions, but my thinking is to keep this opportunity tailored to those who can already ski vs. incorporating a ski lesson. -- Amber
As long as Matt or Dave are in, I will certainly be happy to participate. -- Art
If the powder is good, there’s certainly a lot of terrain we could take people to via snowmobile hops, and I’d be up for driving or skiing it. -- Dave
I'm in! We can tailor the excursion to fit the abilities and interests of the participants. For babes in the wool, we take them down Nicky's Trail and use the snowmobiles to bring them back up the hill. If they've taken the Uphill Travel course or similar, then we'll take them off campus on something that will appropriately challenge them AND be fun. If the winner(s) have AIRIE 1 or better and some experience in the BC, we can level up. -- MattWe could offer a menu of BC experiences:
a. Easy. A Saturday with Art & Dave's BC intro. Then experience a 3-4 mile mini-adventure.
a1. A trek over to Stampede Pass with a mixture of groomed forest roads and not-so-rugged backcountry terrain.
a2. NIki's Trail and back via the Palouse to Cascades / John Wayne.b. Moderate. 5-8 miles.
b1. A round trip up to the Telephone Cabin, past the Stampede weather station, and then back home with a snowmobile tow up from skier pickup.
b2. Climb the Meany hill, continue up to Mt. Francis via the power line slot. Loop around the top and then ski home via the slots in Walt's Woods.c. Extreme. 10-20 miles.
c1. Up Meany hill, ascend to the Saddle, then ski the glades until everyone is exhausted. The South glade if the snow is bad, the East facing glade when the snow is delicious. Then ski down the 4100 road back to the lodge.
c2. Last year, 8 of us ski-towed up to Yakima Pass and were dropped off for a ski home to Meany. That's the more pleasant half of the Patrol Race route but can still consume an entire day.
c3. A guided ski of the Patrol Race route. Last year Nigel and I guided two of the ladies race teams along the route as part of their training. For new teams, the route is unfamiliar, remote and rugged. Having guides with radios and snowmobiles at the ready would be a valuable service. -- matt
Art [Freeman] and I [Amber Carrigan] both think this opportunity has the potential to be wildly successful and lucrative. Who doesn’t want access to their own ski hill?! To ensure this experience is easy to facilitate, we’d keep our offerings rooted in the ski experience. We’re thinking the winner could invite X friends ( # to be determined by the volunteers facilitating the experience) to spend X hours (# to be determined by the volunteers facilitating the experience) on the Meany ski hill for a private ski day. The experience would be scheduled for a mutually agreeable weekday between 11/1/22 – 4/1/23. I don’t think we need to open the lodge for this experience to be a great one for the winner – we can focus more on skiing and less on food/lodging.
Our driveway leading up to Meany Lodge from the railroad grade continues to experience erosion on the uphill side. During the winter and spring it rains rocks into the driveway. Each year we send a work party crew down and they chuck the rocks over the downhill side of the driveway. The erosion is undermining the root balls of some of the trees. We'd like to permanently solve the problem.
A tree came down of which the top 10 – 15 feet hit our power line between our fuse/disconnect, near the meter pole and the next one toward the Lodge. The tree (about 50 to 60 feet tall with dead branches about halfway, up with green branches to the top) shattered near the ground line. The tree likely broke due to wind which was thought to be in the 30-mph area. The top of the tree was removed and the rest of the tree was left to be dealt with later.
Photo’s courtesy of Jim Fahey
The wire selected must be strong enough to withstand ice/snow loading while breaking before the support structures are damaged due to a tree coming down. The wire we’re looking for is called, Aluminum Bare Transmission Cable and comes in flavors (2 gage):
Type | Description | Amps | Strength Lbs. |
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AAC | All Aluminum Conductor | 185 | 1,235 |
ACSR | Aluminum Conductor Steel Reinforced | 140 | 2,850 |
AAAC | All Aluminum Alloy 6201 Conductor | 191 | 4,270 |
ACCC | Aluminum Conductor Composite Core |
Jim measured the wire and the sample we brought back. It is 7-strand with each strand at 3/32” (0.09375) and a total cable diameter of 5/16” (0.3125). Based on the physical measurements, I (Matt) believe that we have AAAC size 77.47 (~ 2 gage).
The approximate cost to buy 500’ (#2 AAAC), is $190 + $27 shipping for a total of $240.
Another thought is that ACSR conductor is now hard to recycle because of the steel core. As a result of this PSE may have shifted to AAAC.
Tension calculations by Mike L. The actual tension is made up of many factors which include temperature, initial sag (which I estimate at 3 to 4 feet) and initial tension which I estimate about 100 to 150 pounds. The chart below should be used to give you some thought as to what loadings we could be looking at.
Span (ft) | Sag (ft) | Diameter Ice Inches | Cable tension Pounds |
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150 | 2 | 1 | 475 |
150 | 3 | 1 | 325 |
150 | 2 | 2 | 1900 |
150 | 3 | 2 | 1275 |
150 | 4 | 2 | 950 |
I (Mike L) used clear water ice since that has a known density. I have seen much thicker rime but have no way of judging density other than it is less. One inch diameter is .34 and 2” is 1.36 plf.
Ray Nelson
December 3, 2021
The Mountaineers is creating two new skill badges, "Sawyer - Bucking", and "Sawyer - Felling". After one receives their USFS Sawyer Certification Card, they can be awarded these badges in their profiles. -- Matt
I have got this covered.
A mountaineer member, Gary Zink, is also a sawyer instructor. The next course he teaches (either very soon if weather permits, or spring) will be hosted either at Meany or Kongsberger Ski Club (Exit 63 / Amabilis). The cost and requirements are $0 and nada. Stay tuned for updates. -- Matt
On a related note...
The "Chain Saw and Crosscut Saw Training Course: Student’s Guidebook" is very very good. Everyone should read it before picking up a chainsaw. The 99 pages is intimidating but it's really only about half as long. The first half is all about bucking and felling with chainsaws. The second half is the same, save for some particulars about crosscut saws. Most everyone can safely ignore the 2nd half.
I may volunteer for WTA and may find myself using a crosscut saw. So I also read those bits of the manual and took The Crosscut Sawyer course hosted online by the University of Montana. That was enlightening. This week, when I laid eyes on the crosscut saws at Stevens Lodge, I could identify the cutters, rakers, gulleys, and the two types of saws they have. 😱
Of note, the BC Faller Training Video series listed on the Back Country Horsemen Sawyer Program page are also very instructive. They're reminiscent of how I learned to operate a saw, cutting firewood with my dad out in the woods.
Finally, the Lynnwood Recreation Center's hosting of the American Red Cross First Aid / CPR / AED course was run very promptly and efficiently and I got my certificate emailed two business days after taking the course.
Matt
Everyone but Matt bows out of course due to PPE and/or Red Cross requirements.
On Sep 14, 2022, at 4:23 PM, Jim Fahey <[email protected]> wrote:
To all,
I'm signed up.
Me too! This link has all the additional information about the course.
Since my first aid card has lapsed, I've signed up for the Red Cross course which I'll take next week.
Secondly, as this is just down the street from Meany, might we all stay overnight at Meany Friday night?
Google Maps shows a 2 hour drive from Meany instead of a 1.5 hour drive from Shoreline. Doesn't seem worth it to me. Car camping at Irish Cabin would put us quite a lot closer as the crow flies, but still requires a big C-shaped drive of 1.25 hours. Since the course is hosted at the Dalles Campground, and it's officially closed, perhaps we could camp there? -- Matt
There is a manual / student guide that must be read beforehand. The link they have seems to be broken. I think this is the one they want us to read. It’s 99 pages. https://www.pcta.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/MTDC-Chain-Saw-and-Crosscut-Saw-Training-Course-Students-Guidebook.pdf -- Rick Ingham (maybe also: https://www.bchw.org/files/student-guide.pdf)
To all,
I've just learned of a free chain saw certification course being taught October 2nd. Read below for details.
The Mount Baker Snoqualmie National Forest will host the Sawyer Certification Course on October 2nd (Sunday) at the Dalles Campground on Highway 410 east of Enumclaw. The Campground closed today (9-11-22) so there will be no one in the campground during the certification course. The training and certification course will be taught by members of the Backcountry Horseman and assisted by volunteers from Washington Trails, DNR, and USFS. The course is free of charge but to get the Sawyer certification you will need a Basic First Aid/CPR certification either before or after the course. I will send information this week on how to register for the course. You will be able to register online by filling out a form and emailing to Backcountry Horseman
Jim Fahey
A subset of #2
The current corrugated galvanized iron roof was installed in 1965. The material has a service life of 30-50 years. With some periodic maintenance (spray coated by Norm Vigus, nail coverings, fastener replacement), it has lasted years beyond its expected service life.
Every year we are now replacing fasteners as the winter snow and ice loading rips them out. Delaying the replacement of the roof will permit deterioration of the framing below the metal. It is preferable to replace the roof before extensive wood replacement beneath it is needed.
We are adding some insulation on the roof, but nowhere near code minimum. The lodge is under-built for the snow load and we depend on heat loss through the roof to melt the snow off. The standing seam steel roofing with no exposed fasteners will be slipperier than the corrugated steel with a field of nail and screw heads sticking up.
The Forest Stewardship Plan itself is also eligible for DNR cost share
We need the ground free of snow in order to identify and describe the herbaceous and shrub layers so we are most likely looking at June or later to do the field work.
Will stay in touch……
Again, thank you for this opportunity to assist with your forest stewardship!
Phil Hess
Consulting Forester
Cost Share Approval: $1,010, expires 2023-06-20
Matt,
Here is my proposal for a Forest Stewardship Plan (FSP) for the Mountaineers property by Stampede Pass (TPN 606535):
Not to exceed $3,700 - I am thinking it will take the better part of two days for me and my forest tech to complete the field work then I will need some time to prepare the plan. This will include an on-site visit with you (and others) after you have reviewed the Plan and may have questions or want explanations/clarifications.
Phil Hess
Jim and Matt met with Amanda at Meany, discussed our goals and how the DNR will partner with us and help. Follow up email from Amanda:
Matt,
Thank you for meeting me out at the lodge, even with the uncooperative weather! I have put you on our list for when our funding becomes available. I wanted to follow-up and provide some information so you and your partners can plan the next step.First definitely reach out to some foresters about a forest management plan. This will be great for the property and maintaining the health of the forest. You can reach out to foresters through the WSU directory: Directory | Extension Forestry | Washington State University (wsu.edu) Let them know you would like to get a new plan made for your property and are planning to enroll in the DNR Cost Share for new management plans, but you have to wait until we can send you an approval of funding (hopefully son but we don’t have a realistic timeframe of when yet!). DNR requires that plans meet the WA forest management plans guidelines Microsoft Word - IntegratedForestManagementPlanGuidelines21412FINAL .docx (wa.gov)
When spring is here and before you plan to do any on the ground treatment call us back out and we can do a site visit to plan a 5 acre fuel reduction and forest health cost share.
I have attached some other informational handouts that I think you and your group may find helpful. Let me know if you have any further questions!
We, the Mountaineers, own 54 acres near Stampede Pass (Easton / Martin), a few miles South of I-90 on the East side of Snoqualmie Pass. We purchased the property in 1928 and have used it as an all-volunteer non-profit ski resort since.
We love our trees and our primary interest is in the long term health of our forest. We have some incidence of root rot we'd like to avoid spreading and we're also keen to help our forest and buildings survive when a fire inevitably comes sweeping through.
We have a some volunteer sawyers who can help us implement some of the thinning. What we need is direction and guidelines. We are interested in the following programs:
We look forward to your assistance.
Matt Simerson
Land Uses in the Vicinity: Our property is bounded by Forest Service land and the BNSF railway. (Parcel #606535 in Kittitas County).
Topography is hilly, ranging from 3,000' to 3,500'.
Access is via Exit 62 off I-90, take FR-54 to FR-5400-420. Follow the 420 road 1.5 miles. At the crest of the hill, the 420 continues straight and our driveway / BNSF rail access / BPA / PSE access road u-turns up the rail embankment, through our locked private gate, and then along the tracks. At the crossing, cross over the tracks and then left up our driveway.
General Forest & Property Description: We have a few cleared areas (a ski slope, and under BPA power lines that cross our property). There is a bit of old growth on one corner, some semi-thinned forest (for ski-ability) on much of the hills, and a lower flattish area in need of thinning. There are two streams that cross our property: martin creek, and tombstone creek, which begins on our property. We have a ski lodge and a few utility buildings scattered about the property.
Property Corner and Boundaries: the Southern border of Section 27 is our property edge and our property is mostly the SE corner of Section 27, as bounded by the BNSF railway. Boundaries are marked by USFS brown fiberglass markers in the ground and on a handful of bearing trees.
Land Use / Forest Management / Timber Harvesting History: We've never logged it off and never will. The biggest changes in the history of the land are (roughly):
late 1800s: fire triggered by coals from locomotive that denuded portions of the property.
1928: acquisition by skiers from the Mountaineers who were excited by the mostly open slopes
1930s: clearing of The Lane (main ski run)
1980s: easement granted to BPA, who cleared the trees under their power lines
We have nearly emptied the wood room this year. Due to a number of "best done when nobody is around because we have to turn off {water|electricity} for hours" projects such as plumbing fixes and replacing power line sections, the wood room will likely be empty by the time we're able to drive up to the lodge.
In summer/fall of 2022, we marked the following dead trees to be felled:
In addition, we need to remove more not-dead trees above the driveway, in a 2:1 ratio of run:rise. Then Nick will use his dozer to scrape and scoop out a bunch of that rotten rock and dirt and dump it along the sledding hill to build up a berm along it.
I’ll organize a splitting party some weekend in June so it can start drying. --Dave Maltz
My brother in law who works for PSE is who Dave and I had help take down the trees for the zoo extension, he very professional and safe. I can ask if he is interested, he would want to see the trees first of course. He has all the correct safety rigs but pretty much just did it for us for the fun and to help us out. -- Shawn
There are trees that will need to be fallen by a professional since I believe there are three trees with two of them being joined at the butt and probably needing to be fallen together. -- Phil
What would it take to make Meany into a great place to take 100 kids for 10 weeks of every summer?
Think: summer camp, with a fresh set of faces every week with their adult minders. Meany, as is customary, would provide a couple volunteers to keep the place running. The Mountaineers youth programs would supply their own leaders, similar to the way GIVE and the Mountaineer youth programs we hosted this past winter did. The heart of this question is specifically aimed at infrastructure and logistics. Examples: a covered outdoor pavilion, expanded shower capacity, shelters for outdoor eating and sleeping, improved hiking trails, obstacle courses, climbing walls, storage for sports equipment (bikes, water toys, etc.), navigation / geocache hotspots, etc.
While most of us at Meany love the community aspects of the lodge, for others sharing a space communally with 95 strangers is a nightmare. What about private cabin / ecolodge rentals?
Cabins could take many forms: shipping containers, yurts, tree houses, tiny houses, etc. Could we have 4-season cabins that functioned great for a youth leader and 5-8 kids in the summer, and also be a great private party rental during the winter? There are many interesting challenges and possibilities here.
The PCT trail is a short distance up the hill from Meany. Steven's Lodge is similarly close to the PCT, so when the thru-hikers are passing through in late August and September, a Steven's volunteer hoofs it up the hill and puts up a sign along the trail, letting hikers know the lodge is open. Steven's hosts about 30 hikers per night for a month. What do the hikers want? A shower, a way to wash their clothes, and calories. Lots of calories. Big heaping piles of pasta anything.
PCT hikers are a significant source of revenue for Stevens. Examples of infrastructure that would enable/improve hosting this activity would be: roof insulation to keep the lodge cooler in summer, a washing machine, and improved showers.
I think a core thread in all these proposals might be a need to professionalize lodge management. -- Kate
We tried the PCT idea, to a limited extent, in the past with very low usage, mostly just one - two people a night . It seemed like a lot more trouble than it was worth -- Phil
This idea has surfaced at least 2X since I have been... I have been in favor... for years. I believe Meany is an under-used asset... The BIG issue is HOW to expand the use of Meany without losing its core features. -- Chuck
The Kitsap cabin hosts a youth event in the summer that has been very popular and generates some significant revenue. The property has bunkhouses, a meeting room, and a bathroom building. The central kitchen is in the cabin. The property has a caretaker with cabin. -- Richard
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Machine learning is a way of modeling and interpreting data that allows a piece of software to respond intelligently.
Some thing interesting about visualization, use data art
Some thing interesting about game, make everyone happy.
We are working to build community through open source technology. NB: members must have two-factor auth.
Open source projects and samples from Microsoft.
Google ❤️ Open Source for everyone.
Alibaba Open Source for everyone
Data-Driven Documents codes.
China tencent open source team.