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JustArchi avatar JustArchi commented on May 10, 2024

You can't "steal" ASF, because it's licensed under Apache2 License - https://github.com/JustArchi/ArchiSteamFarm/blob/master/LICENSE-2.0.txt.

   4. Redistribution. You may reproduce and distribute copies of the
      Work or Derivative Works thereof in any medium, with or without
      modifications, and in Source or Object form, provided that You
      meet the following conditions:

      (a) You must give any other recipients of the Work or
          Derivative Works a copy of this License; and

      (b) You must cause any modified files to carry prominent notices
          stating that You changed the files; and

      (c) You must retain, in the Source form of any Derivative Works
          that You distribute, all copyright, patent, trademark, and
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Morever, you do not have a proof that he in fact uses ASF as a part of his infrastructure. You can however ask the user if he in fact uses part of ASF, and if yes, he should state it clearly along with my copyright notice on his website, as license requires.

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aveao avatar aveao commented on May 10, 2024

Wow, using Apache License is weird.

GPL is more protective, but whatever.

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JustArchi avatar JustArchi commented on May 10, 2024

Indeed it is, but it's not my intention to prohibit commercial or closed-source use of ASF.

Moreover, if somebody is stupid enough to pay 8$ monthly for farming one account out of cards worth 0.10$ each, instead of using ASF, it's his own choice.

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JustArchi avatar JustArchi commented on May 10, 2024

But it's nice to note that if he does that, then he violates SK2 license, because he must disclose source as ASF is statically linked with ILMerge, along with including original work based on.

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Rudokhvist avatar Rudokhvist commented on May 10, 2024

I don't think it's asf, or at least it's very modified version of it - if I understand correctly - they provide web interface for it, you need re-work asf controls to attach it to web. Also, paying 8$ for something I got for free is ridiculous.

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JustArchi avatar JustArchi commented on May 10, 2024

I'm more than sure that if he doesn't use ASF, he most certainly uses SK2, licensed under LGPL, therefore I suggest to ask the developer directly about that.

I see no reason to sue him for anything ASF-based, because I don't have a proof that he uses ASF, as @Ryzhehvost stated above - it would actually need some work to make ASF compatible with web interface, and I doubt that he's doing that.

And it's not my intention to restrict other developers from using/changing ASF, in both open-source and closed-source ways.

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Ne3tCode avatar Ne3tCode commented on May 10, 2024

Nooooooo. They stole my idea! 😦
Wait... Their domain is registered earlier (August 2015). Damn 😞

No, seriously. Steam idler is just an idea. They have web interface, we have ASF. It is good (for us, not for them 😅)

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JustArchi avatar JustArchi commented on May 10, 2024

Yep, and that registration date is actually enough to say that the guy started working on it before I wrote first line of ASF, so most likely he doesn't use ASF, or even part of it. No need to rant about it here then.

(Although he still violates SK2 license, if he uses SK2)

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