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TheJaredWilcurt avatar TheJaredWilcurt commented on June 17, 2024

I don't think a site that requires you to give over all your LinkedIn user data is the best source for what is popular in the dev world. Of the top 5 listed, they don't even have 500 reviews between them. That is way too small of a sampling size to take seriously. Sublime is the only one with over 100 reviews.

Atom is a just a slower, open source, knock-off of Sublime with worse keyboard shortcuts. I'd rather not encourage people to use it professionally. I don't know anyone with Atom who works at a professional level who has uninstalled Sublime. In fact the only people I know who primarily use Atom are beginner level (I train and mentor beginner to junior level web devs) that is the community I see Atom most popular with.

This may open the floodgates to requests to get everyone else's favorite text editor on this list which would be overwhelming to those trying to learn. There is too much similarity between most of the text editors. I'd rather new people have Sublime as their introduction to professional text editors so they understand why it's used professionally. There is nothing stopping them from exploring MS Code/Brackets/Atom/Vim/Etc later on, and in fact they are more likely to once they're more comfortable with front end. But if you're used to a professional tool (like Sublime or Vim), you can't spend very long in Atom as it feels like it's slowing you down. I hope one day they fix that, but it seems to be an underlying issue with Electron.

And since I mentioned Vim, please do not add that to the list, I've seen newbies quit even trying front end once being exposed to Vim. It is NOT beginner friendly.

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collinmutembei avatar collinmutembei commented on June 17, 2024

@TheJaredWilcurt You do have a valid point in that including Atom on the list might catalyze requests for other editors as well however, not to start a text-editor battle here...I was just pointing out that just as the list of web browsers has some browsers that can be agreed upon as fairly terrible, it would not hurt to include Atom. As you mentioned, it is widely used by entry-level developers of which I believe are the greatest beneficiaries of the tutorial.

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TheJaredWilcurt avatar TheJaredWilcurt commented on June 17, 2024

You can't compare browsers and text editors they serve different puproses.

  • Browsers: You are REQUIRED to have your stuff work in all of these to be a professional. If you only support the ones you like, you are a hobbyist. Therefore, all must be mentioned. It would be like leaving CSS off of the site just because you don't like it. You can get by without it, but you won't be a desirable job hire.
  • Text Editors: You CHOOSE to use the ones you like. No job cares what text editor you use, it does not impact the end user. I wouldn't say other text editors are irrelevant, but they are psuedo-relavent. Like including a Cold Fusion section on this site. Yeah, there are web developers who get paid to use Cold Fusion, so technically it falls under the "web dev" umbrella, so it isn't irrelevant, but having a section devoted to it would only serve as a distraction.

Marksheet.io should aim to deliver the minimum information required as a jumping off point, and point of reference to those learning. It should not get lost in the woods by mentioning every last thing related to every last topic. That is overwhelming and a disservice to the target audience.

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collinmutembei avatar collinmutembei commented on June 17, 2024

True; browsers and text editors have different purposes. @TheJaredWilcurt The word "popular" is a little misleading, don't you think?

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