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IC already calculates average over 16 cycles which is 320 ms at 50 Hz or 266 ms at 60 Hz. Data collection at 200 ms interval doesn't make sense here.
Missed that completely the application sheet did not dialogue that but the datasheet certainly did. The local avg calc needs to be removed, it provides no value. What does provide value is the quick polling local memory retrieval which have no additional delays.
Do you think adding the ability to set the SPI clock rate from the external yaml config function has value?
Did some more research on the calibrations when they dialogue this Ub=Uc=Un, Ua=0, Ia=0 you have to have a 0 input level for both the current and the voltage in order to set a valid voltage calibration on Ua. The design of the circuit we use does not allow this so I need to make it optional in the code for any design that could use it.
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I tried to reset chips during operation and this didn't change anything. However, the whole ESPHome reset almost always did.
My transformer is 9.0V 0.67A (6.0W) which should be enough for ESP32. But the secondary resistance 2.5 ohm is too big for a stable output for ESP32 current peaks which are by datasheet up to 240 mA for wifi itself. This is at least 0.6V drop already. Most probably the difference between two IC readings came from timing when ESP32 wifi is transmitting or not.
When I removed the ESP32 from PCB and powered it from USB (keep only M90E32AS power from AC), the difference between all voltage readigs is around 0.2-0.4V only.
Now I'm thinking, should I remove rectifier from PCB, keep AC only for voltage sensing and use separate USB power adapter for power the boards to get even more precise reading.
Would be great to have dedicated jumper traces for such configuration in the future PCB revision. Or even better, change the JP12 and JP13 to three position so that it is possible cut J4 AC socket from VA+ and VA- and use J3 for both ICs.
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Ok, now I see that I described a little bit different situation. You have quite powerful transformer and the load of the ESP and power measurement boards don't affect the reading as much as my 6W transformer (around 2 volt or 1% power drop).
I did test with all my three boards now. EMON-1 and EMON-2 are using 9V 0.67A (6W) AC power transformer. EMON-3 has rectifier removed and external transformer doesn't supply power to the board but only to the ATM90E32AS voltage sense inputs. ESP and energy meter board get their power via ESP board 5V USB input.
This is a 30 min graph with 1 second step. I reset all boards via API in 5 min interval. First graph shows voltage reading from all boards and then there are graph for each board where you can see voltage reading difference from IC1 and IC2 in volts and in percentage.
You can see that the difference between EMON-1 and EMON-2 is quite big and not very stable. This is where the ESP32 power consumption changes are visible. Fluctuation is in volts.
EMON-3 does not use power from transformer and two chips should get exactly the same voltage reading. Or with small constant offset due voltage divider resistor tolerances.
Difference between two chips is very stable. Still, every reset changes the difference and I think this is the error you are seeing too and I don't have any good explanation for that either.
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I think it is much easier to do (offset) calibration and voltage difference troubleshooting when both inputs are feed from the same source. As long the same source give different readings, there is no point to assume that different sources are magically more precise.
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@Cougar - I've been trying to replicate what you did in Grafana to graph the difference but due to the samples not having the same timestamp, I can't get it to calculate a difference. How did you do your graphs?
Here is my Flux query for that:
import "join"
left = from(bucket: "emon")
|> range(start: v.timeRangeStart, stop: v.timeRangeStop)
|> filter(fn: (r) => r["measurement"] == "EMON-3 IC1 LineA Voltage")
|> aggregateWindow(every: v.windowPeriod, fn: mean, createEmpty: true)
|> keep(columns: ["_time", "_start", "_stop", "_field", "_value", "_measurement"])
|> group(columns: ["_time", "_value"], mode: "except")
right = from(bucket: "emon")
|> range(start: v.timeRangeStart, stop: v.timeRangeStop)
|> filter(fn: (r) => r["measurement"] == "EMON-3 IC2 LineA Voltage")
|> aggregateWindow(every: v.windowPeriod, fn: mean, createEmpty: true)
|> keep(columns: ["_time", "_start", "_stop", "_field", "_value", "_measurement"])
|> group(columns: ["_time", "_value"], mode: "except")
join.time(method: "full", left: left, right: right, as: (l, r) => ({l with f2: r._value}))
|> map(fn: (r) => ({ r with _value: (r.f2 - r._value) / r.f2 }))
|> drop(columns: ["f2"])
|> filter(fn: (r) => r._value > -0.01 and r._value < 0.01)
I take reading of two sensors (with one second updates) to left
and right
table, then join them by time, calculate the difference and divide by one reading to get a percent. I filtered out bigger than 1% (0.01) difference just to ignore random peaks and not change graph mean calculation. In graph the unit is percent (0.00-1.00) and I set max and min to 1% (-0.01 to 0.01). If you remove the division part (/ r.f2
) then you can get absolute difference value.
I haven't tried the latest code with changed calibration yet but will do soon. I have three extension modules too, so I can connect up to 8 ATM90E32 chips to one AC input at the same time and compare all of them while powering ESP and ATM90E32 separately from external 3.3V DC.
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It's very odd to see that much of a difference between the 2 voltage readings when they are coming from the same AC transformer. I would recommend calibrating the voltages separately, and changing the calibration values so they both read about the same. Otherwise the power reading is going to be a bit off on one side of the meter.
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Makes sense - thanks!
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I'd like to second on this. It is not just a calibration issue. Maybe even another issue should be created.
I did a simple test with three meter boards, all connected to similar AC power supplies (could be a little bit different of course). I changed calibration values until I got very close readings from all meters. Values (for ESPHome config) were following:
gain_voltage: "12770"
gain_voltage: "12674"
gain_voltage: "12638"
gain_voltage: "12727"
gain_voltage: "12697"
gain_voltage: "12750"
Then I did power restart for all modules (moved them to another extension cord) and the voltage difference between the lowest and highest reading changed from less than 0.5V to around 5V! M90E32AS Vrms voltage accuracy by spec is ±0.5%
This means that it was just a pure luck that these calibration values gave me the same voltage readings. Now I'm troubleshooting this issue with all values 12770
and the result is the same. Every board reset makes readings different. Here is one ESPHome reset:
For this graph I measure the voltage each second.
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I first suspected some sort of initialization problem because not all setup registers are written in the boot. However, based on spec it should not be a problem and defualt values are going to be used in this case. I have done many chip restarts and read all registers after that but haven't seen any difference in config registers.
Another idea came from M90E32AS datasheet 6.4 POWER ON RESET TIMING where it says:
To make sure M90E32AS is reset and can work properly, MCU must force M90E32AS into idle mode firstly and then into normal mode. In this operation, RESET is held to high in idle mode and de-asserted by delay T1 after idle-normal transition
This meter connects PM0
and PM1
to VDD
which means that the chip is hardwired to Normal mode only. Could this cause a problems here? Now way to test without removing two chip pins from PCB..
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@Cougar that is very interesting. I haven't observed that behavior myself. You may be onto something with the reset timing. Are you doing a reset via software or power cycling? If software, I'm wondering if it is not updating the calibration values properly.
You may want to try a reset via software, and compare to power cycling to see if there is a difference. I'm going to bet there is. Especially with the second IC (assuming there is a natural bit of delay in initializing the second IC) You are correct that the board puts the metering ICs in normal mode only, but I haven't seen problems with this in the past. It may be a matter of reinitializing and writing to the config register with a POR. The code for that in ESPHome is located here.
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@CircuitSetup My first post was power cycle. I moved the whole setup to another room and lost all my "good" calibrations.
Most resets are software resets that ESPHome does when uploading new firmware. I hope to find something and add more and more debug to this firmware. Now I dump all registers to the log after chip initialization. Only differences are actual measurement registers, all config remains unchanged.
Now I did 10 sec power cycle for all three meters and this is how it looks like:
"Line Voltage" is the UrmsA of the first IC and "Line2 Voltage" is second IC.
I also tried to set up all offset registers based on this code but it didn't change anything.
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I would expect that the 3 voltage measurements per IC would be similar to each other since they have the same voltage dividers (there's a set of voltage dividers for each IC). Depending on when you received your meter those resistors are either 1% or 0.5%. More recent batches are 0.5%. I'm guessing the variance between individual IC voltage readings is either the IC itself, or the small delay in ESPHome actually taking the reading.
Either way, if you're reading power from the meter, and each voltage is calibrated, you should still get very accurate results.
FYI, I believe the offset registers only apply to the accumulated power registers. The datasheet is a bit confusing regarding them, and how they should be used.
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I 100% agree. I read only first voltage from every chip. I will try to read all three to see if there is any inconsistency between them too. Of course reading times are slightly different but from graph it is still visible if the difference has always the same offset.
I don't think that voltage divider accuracy is a problem right now because the change always happens with chip reset. I'll add some more knobs to ESPHome and check if also happens if I just send ATM90E32_REGISTER_SOFTRESET
without any other configuration in setup phase. Or if ATM90E32_REGISTER_METEREN
toggle change anything.
If I understand correctly then all config goes to flash and you don't need to resend them at all. This should be the reason for config CRC register and dedicated WarnOut pin. Isn't it how simple pulse counting meters with this chip (and no MCU) should work?
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I am not sure whether it is the same issue or not, but it looks like it may be.
I have a tiny 9V PCB mount transformer to provide reference for V2, and a PCB mounted 12V 14VA transformer to power the board and ESP32, and provide V1. While I do see a voltage drop of about 0.1V when I connect the ESP/energy monitor to the 12VAC transformer, it tends to be consistent (meaning it seems -0.1V all the time but hard to tell for sure given the fast line voltage fluctuations). I am using a 5 1/2 digit bench DMM set to slow for my measurements. I compare the DMM measurement of line voltage (which for now is powering both transformers) to the voltage reported back for V1 and V2 and calibrated them to show the same reading. Every time I go back to it after some time, the delta between V1 and V2 is off by up to 0.5V while after calibration it was within 0.0V and 0.1V. I chart the voltage readings in Grafana and it is quite visible that they grow apart.
I often noticed that when I reset the board manually or by uploading a new ESPHome firmware, the calibration change I made seemed off, or the calibration I had completed was now off again. This sounds similar to what @Cougar was reporting although with a smaller delta.
I know that in the big scheme of things a voltage measurement error up to 0.5V on a 120V line is not critical but I was wondering whether anything could be done. I just purchased my board and have v1.4 rev1. Are there any changes I can make to it to make things better (better resistors, etc)? I am comfortable with soldering and have good enough equipment to do it.
Also, is there something I can do to stabilize the secondary output powering the ESP so that V1 won't be affected by its fluctuating power draw?
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Based on the graph below, the delta may have something to do with the update delay. When the delta is set to the normal 10s delay, the delta between V1 and V2 is 0.4 ~ 0.5V but when it is set to 2s it is 0.1V. So, the calibration should be fine in my case, just a matter of timing and the measurements not being taken close enough in time. I wonder whether there is some way to improve on that without keeping them at 2s which bogs down my HA with tons of db writes and unnecessary data.
In the graph below, where the two lines grow nearer is when I uploaded the firmware changed from 10s to 2s. The big L1 dips were when I rebooted the ESP remotely which may be connected with a higher draw on the transformer while ESP32 is booting up causing a minor drop that translates to a bigger drop of this graph.
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I modified my board a little bit to remove board power from AC transformer. The easiest was to just remove a rectifier from the board and supply power to ESP and ATM90E32AS via NodeMCU micro-USB port. I bought dedicated DIN rail 5V power supply for that. I'm not sure if this is a good practice to feed 3.3V to the step down switcher but so far it works fine. Might be better to remove L1 as well to completely disconnect onboard power supply but this component is much harder to remove.
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@Cougar - Thanks for the tip. For now I have a large capacitor on the 3.3V and 5V but I still have to vet if it is really helping. I opened a ticket on ESPHome github reporting a related issue. I have 2 boards... and the 1st chip of both boards alternate having a 0.5V error in the reading.
The arrows indicate manual restarts, no changes. For an instance they all matched but that rarely happens. I can keep restarting and the L1 V and L1 AO V just keep trading places having the 0.5V error. That is not due to the ESP32 current draw, or voltage fluctuation etc... it has to be something with how the chips are configured (?) at boot-up.
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My conclusion was that it doesn't matter if the problem is visible for one or both chips. These chips are polled in different times and it is possible that during one operation the ESP32 draws more current than during another. I think it is because of WiFi but I haven't tried to measure these timings to prove it. WiFi just seems most probable reason due quite high current draw.
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@Cougar What I am showing above is not due to wifi as only 1 of the 2 voltage channels (chip1 on both boards) connected to the same transformer see the 0.5V shift and that shift doesn't change based on anything other than a reboot. The behavior is so repeatable that I am convinced there is a software bug somewhere during initial setup of the chips.
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Did you switch off the Wifi? How do you get these readings? Different boards have been read in different times. You can try to swap chips under sensor:
and see if the shift moves along to another chip.
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@Cougar No, WIFI is fully operational. For testing purposes I connected the same 120V feed to both transformers and calibrated them to match what I was reading from my benchtop 5 1/2 digit DMM. That in itself was a bit hard due to the constant fluctuations of line voltage and I found that late at night it is a bit easier. I also sped up the reporting to 3s (faster would cause it all to choke up) because I figured that the 4 chips taking measurements at different times would account for some variation. Using Grafana graphs to monitor the changes helped as I focused mostly on it trending in the right ballpark and for all 4 channels to be close to each other since they were all reading the same line voltage.
Trying to reword what I said in my previous post, all 4 channels are now calibrated to read the correct voltage however each time I reboot the system, ch1 of board 1 or board 2 shifts up by about 0.5V. The shift is constant and comes and goes simply by rebooting the board. Most commonly they trade places... when one is shifted high, the other is correct, and after a reboot they trade places. In one instance shown in the screenshot I re-pasted below they happened to both not have the shift so all 4 channels were reporting the voltage correctly (look at signals between the red arrows). Before the left red arrow L1V (Green) is shifted high, and after rebooting twice, L1 AO V (Blue) was now shifted high. This behavior cannot be related to what the ESP is doing... so it must be some software bug in how the chips are setup at boot (or something along those lines).
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I have had now some time to let my test run days.
My ESPHome is still not stable enough to run it long time. Its measuring scheduler just stops after some time and only restart helps (even over API). But this is different story and I'll take it to the ESPHome development.
Back to the ATM90E32AS errors now. I still have the issue that almost every ESPHome restart changes the error margin in the range of 2V and I have no idea what is the cause.
I made a simple button where I can run IC setup any time:
button:
- platform: template
name: ${node_name} IC Setup
on_press:
then:
lambda: !lambda |-
id(chip1).setup();
id(chip2).setup();
AFAIK this button runs exactly the same IC initialization code that ESPHome reset does and still only ESPHome reset changes the voltage reading error.
But what is even more interesting is that the difference does not stay constant even between restarts and its change looks cyclic. I'm totally puzzled now.
This is how it looks like for 3.4 days continuous measurements every second where I already compensated the mean difference (0.25 V). Does anyone have any idea what is going on there?
I already suspected things from ESP32 board interference and room temperature to rotation of the Earth. I already separated ESP32 board from the ATM90E32AS board with 20cm cable but nothing changed. The relative difference stays between ± 0.16 % which is very good and I actually don't worry about that but it is still interesting.
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There is a feature on the energy metering IC's that compensate for readings based on temperature (which is why you can get a temp value from them). It is set to its default settings, and shouldn't need to be adjusted though. Details are here on page 35-37
Keep in mind that each chip may be reading a slightly different temperature.
I'm guessing the differences you are seeing are a combination of this and other variables mentioned above.
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Yeah but the temperature is not changing like that and it is quite stable over time. This was the first thing I checked. My daily routine is not same every day either.
Still this small change is not an issue but just interesting thing that you usually don't notice unless you do a lot of measurements.
This is how the same voltage difference graph looks like now when I send ESPHome reset in every 5 min and this is much bigger issue and can't be related with Earth rotation or anything like that :)
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@Cougar I am certain that the issue I am seeing is not caused by any other signal or environmental factor as I believe you have eliminated as well. It is so repeatable by simply resetting the board that I'd say it is certainly something to do with the software or some 'defect' in the chip. The error in the reading seems to toggle on and off at each reset and while at first I thought it was bouncing from one board to the other, I then saw that at times the voltages match likely because both errors are on the same leg. In other words, it is something that somewhat randomly affects one leg (voltage measurements of L1 and L2) or the other with it often switching which one it affects. Hopefully this makes sense... To be clear, my setup has not been installed yet as once I do that I won't be able to troubleshoot further. Both transformers are connected to the same outlet and both voltage inputs have been calibrated. When the error is not affecting the channel, the reading is correct. Both channels read the voltage correctly unless the error is affecting that channel.
If we look at the lower level code that implements this board / chip, is there any code that could be randomly affecting just one of the 2 voltage measurement channels, or maybe both or neither, somewhat randomly?
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I made a simple button where I can run IC setup any time:
Where did you define the chip ids? I don't have any chip related ids in my YAML. I'd like to test what you did to see if I can get the error to bounce around.
EDIT: I added id: chip#
right after each platform for the 4 chips. I then added the setup command for the 2 additional chips.
My starting point shows that L2 and L2 AO match and that L1 and L1 AO match. The chip setup appears to make no difference (assuming I implemented it correctly). At 11:21 I hit the reset button and L1 error went away and it now matches the other 3 leaving just L1 AO with the 0.5V error. At 11:26 I hit reset again and L1 got the error back...
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Here you found the same behavior that I see. Chip reset via setup hook doesn't chance anything but reset button or ESPHome restart does. Only thing that happens in latter case is the I2C setup and the data collection timing relative to AC zero crossing is probably different. Could any of them be a reason why the difference changes?
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I built a little calibration rig to try to get to the bottom of this issue. While I understand that the voltage difference is minimal and in the big scheme of things irrelevant, I wonder whether there is some way to fix it given this seems to be a software issue. I implemented a faster SPI clock (1MHz) courtesy of @descipher and while I have not noticed any drawbacks, I am inclined to think it helps given this time around I was able to narrow the gap between the voltages reported by the 2 boards. The one thing that still bugs me is why does L1 voltage reported by the main board and the addon board swap places reporting a slightly higher value nearly each time the ESP is re-flashed?
The graph below only shows L1 V and L1 AO V so it is easier to see how they swap places. I have a larger transformer feeding L1 on both boards, and a smaller transformer feeding L2 on both boards. Both transformers are currently being powered by the same mains connection (outlet) and I am monitoring the voltage with a benchtop 5 1/2 digit DMM. I am not trying to obtain absolute accuracy, but rather the 4 measurements to be as close as possible to each other.
In this thread there is discussion of the effect of the ESP power draw when using WIFI, but that would not explain why L1V and L1AOV trade places... which is the issue I am trying to fix.
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/258478854-7d8fddbd-b046-4ddc-9182-e89a5760cecd.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.vteQOBNs6omsgrQIZDBfnEMdY3XPERhZyaSM-9hB3GA)
I am also wondering whether the 4 voltage readings are actually necessary to read 6 power measurements. Would it be possible to just use the L1 and L2 voltages measurements from one of the two boards for the purposes of the entire system? I am guessing not as each chip will independently read voltage & current and calculate power by multiplying the two?
To calibrate the system I am using a 150W 120V bulb (my load) and power it through a 4 x loop so the power that the current transformers see it 4x which, given bulb wattage tolerances, translates to 4A. The clamp in the picture is what I use to read the current (reading it typically around 4.017A). The caps I soldered on the ESP are just tests to see if I can reduce fluctuations caused by the ESP draw but have no effect on what I am trying to fix.
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/258483987-803a46ec-13fe-4f9b-b003-1abc8aa382cb.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJnaXRodWIuY29tIiwiYXVkIjoicmF3LmdpdGh1YnVzZXJjb250ZW50LmNvbSIsImtleSI6ImtleTUiLCJleHAiOjE3MjEyMzExMTksIm5iZiI6MTcyMTIzMDgxOSwicGF0aCI6Ii80MDA2OTQ0LzI1ODQ4Mzk4Ny04MDNhNDZlYy0xM2ZlLTRmOWItYjAwMy0xYWJjOGFhMzgyY2IucG5nP1gtQW16LUFsZ29yaXRobT1BV1M0LUhNQUMtU0hBMjU2JlgtQW16LUNyZWRlbnRpYWw9QUtJQVZDT0RZTFNBNTNQUUs0WkElMkYyMDI0MDcxNyUyRnVzLWVhc3QtMSUyRnMzJTJGYXdzNF9yZXF1ZXN0JlgtQW16LURhdGU9MjAyNDA3MTdUMTU0MDE5WiZYLUFtei1FeHBpcmVzPTMwMCZYLUFtei1TaWduYXR1cmU9Yzc1OTY1ZDY5NWZmNGNlZmRhNWIxMjE1MGQ2MDMwODViM2FkY2E2ZDM5ZDcxNDJjNmNhZTQ1ZWM1YTg4OTQ4MCZYLUFtei1TaWduZWRIZWFkZXJzPWhvc3QmYWN0b3JfaWQ9MCZrZXlfaWQ9MCZyZXBvX2lkPTAifQ.tQYDGlkdJi6iq6lAg3qdublqEWoLAXazDPsA5Nd7-8o)
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I see a number of potential reasons for the variation in L1, L2 or L3 voltages.
- UoffsetA/B/C in not implemented in the code and thus the variation of L1, L2 or L3 voltage circuit value/noise differences cannot be calibrated. To correctly calibrate the input to each chip both UgainA/B/C and UoffsetA/B/C must be implemented.
Gain is not the same as offset. Gain is the factor and offset is the position to factor. Both are required to have accuracy.
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The value tolerance of the quad input resistor pack R24 on the 6 channel board is 5% which could have enough difference to be observable. The other circuit resistors are not visable on the published diagram so not sure what those tolerences are.
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With all the leads/connectors/EMI there is a high probability of inductive/noise/impedence variables which require full calibration to keep the input measurement in spec.
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The input sampling is also too low, a single read is not very accurate, several samples should be read and averaged.
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Sorry, needed to include this:
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@descipher - I realize this board, and likely the chip, are not meant for high accuracy applications and am ok with some error. Also, not all of my equipment is calibrated or at least not recently so my end goal is mostly to make the readings jive for the lack of a better word. There is a parameter I can change to "calibrate" the voltage measurements and I can get only so close because L1 on the 2 boards appear to keep swapping an error that skews the readings.
If you look at the graph in my last post, you will notice that the top trace starts green, then after a reboot trades its place with blue, and then back to green. It doesn't happen at every single reboot, and in fact I point out 3 reboots but the error moved only twice. When this error moves from one input to the other, it messes with my calibration so I find myself having to correct it in the other direction which then gets nullified when it swaps again. Since this swap happens pretty reliably, I am hoping it is a software implementation issue that can be addressed. Resistors with high tolerance values such as the 5% one you mentioned would affect the readings but not cause the error to move from one board to the other, right?
With all the leads/connectors/EMI there is a high probability of inductive/noise/impedence variables which require full >calibration to keep the input measurement in spec.
The best I can do to mitigate this issue is what I show in the picture. The CTs are labeled for the respective circuit branches they will measure and the black box with numbered 3.5mm connectors will be inside the outdoor electrical panel. The gray wires will exit the panel and enter the box you see in the picture through electrical conduit. In other words, I am trying to do a "system calibration" in my office as if it were installed because I won't be able to do one once it is installed outdoors. The gray cables will be shorter but I doubt the reduced resistance will have a significant impact.
When the ESP32 reboots, something happens to the main voltage input on one of the two boards causing them to diverge. In rare occasions whatever happens makes then "agree". Your 1MHz SPI tweak seems to have had an impact as I was never able to get the V readings so close, but many other things may have changed too, so I am not sure.
The input sampling is also too low, a single read is not very accurate, several samples should be read and averaged.
I was planning on implementing a sliding_window_moving_average filter
in ESPHome as a way to reduce the impact of outlier readings but those will also be hidden by reducing the decimals to just 1 position once I did all I can do to calibrate this system.
UoffsetA/B/C in not implemented in the code and thus the variation of L1, L2 or L3 voltage circuit value/noise differences >cannot be calibrated. To correctly calibrate the input to each chip both UgainA/B/C and UoffsetA/B/C must be implemented.
Gain is not the same as offset. Gain is the factor and offset is the position to factor. Both are required to have accuracy.
This sounds like something that can be improved in the custom component that supports this chip in ESPHome. I don't have the ability to do so myself. Hopefully someone will contribute it in the future, however I am also guessing that it would not help with the error jumping from one board to the other randomly.
Below is the latest revision of the YAML I am using. The update rate is set to 3s only to make it easier to calibrate the measurements. As you mentioned in another thread I typically would keep it at a higher value but not so high I can't see a relevant change fast enough for it to be useful in troubleshooting.
In regards to the snapshot on Offsets, aren't those what I am changing? See my substitutions
section.
# Example config for when jp8-jp11 are all bridged - this connects all the voltage channels and allows for power to be calculated by the meter directly.
# Boards >= v1.4 jp8-jp11 are removed and have all voltage channels connected
# Oven 40A, Dryer 30A, HVAC 25A, HVAC 40A, SubPanel 80A
substitutions:
devicename: home-energy-meter
devicename_no_dashes: home_energy_meter
friendly_devicename: "Home Energy Meter"
device_description: "Home Energy Meter"
appliance1: "Dryer"
appliance2: "Oven"
# appliance3: "TBD"
hvac1: "Downstairs HVAC"
hvac2: "Upstairs HVAC"
# Current Transformers:
# 20A/25mA SCT-006: 11143
# 30A/1V SCT-013-030: 8650
# 50A/1V SCT-013-050: 15420
# 80A/26.6mA SCT-010: 41660
# 100A/50ma SCT-013-000: 27518
# 120A/40mA: SCT-016: 41787
# 200A/100mA SCT-024: 27518
current_cal_ct1: '46800' #L1 Main
current_cal_ct2: '42480' #L1 Dryer
current_cal_ct3: '42480' #L1 Oven
current_cal_ct4: '42565' #L2 Oven was 42075
current_cal_ct5: '42580' #L2 Dryer
current_cal_ct6: '47010' #L2 Main
current_cal_ct7: '41660' #L1 CT7
current_cal_ct8: '42355' #L1 HVAC DS
current_cal_ct9: '42265' #L1 HVAC US
current_cal_ct10: '42375' #L2 HVAC US
current_cal_ct11: '42365' #L2 HVAC DS
current_cal_ct12: '41660' #L2 CT12
# voltage calibrations done by feeding 60Hz sine on seconday input
# and painfully on primary but they match as close as I can get it
v1_cal: '5018' #5022 1L1
v2_cal: '5388' #5378 1L2 V2 and V4 match when stable 60Hz sine is fed to them. Do not change independently
v3_cal: '4998' #5004 2L1 (AO)
v4_cal: '5362' #5352 2L2 (AO) V2 and V4 match when stable 60Hz sine is fed to them. Do not change independently
# Interval of how often the wifi info is updated
update_interval_wifi: "120s"
# Interval of how often the power is updated
update_interval_s: "3s"
update_interval_s_totals: "60s"
v_accuracy: "3"
a_accuracy: "3"
w_accuracy: "3"
kwh_accuracy: "1"
esphome:
name: ${devicename}
friendly_name: "${friendly_devicename}"
comment: ${device_description}
platform: ESP32
board: nodemcu-32s
external_components:
source: github://descipher/[email protected]
components: [ atm90e32 ]
refresh: 0s
wifi:
ssid: !secret iot_wifi_ssid
password: !secret iot_wifi_password
# Enable fallback hotspot (captive portal) in case wifi connection fails
ap:
ssid: "${devicename}"
password: !secret iot_wifi_password
#Faster than DHCP. Also use if can't reach because of name change
manual_ip:
static_ip: 192.168.3.198
gateway: 192.168.3.1
subnet: 255.255.255.0
dns1: 192.168.1.25
dns2: 192.168.1.36
#Manually override what address to use to connect to the ESP.
#Defaults to auto-generated value. Example, if you have changed your
#static IP and want to flash OTA to the previously configured IP address.
#use_address: 192.168.3.198
# Enable logging
logger:
baud_rate: 921600
# Enable Home Assistant API
api:
# password: !secret api_pwd
ota:
password: !secret ota_pwd
web_server:
port: 80
# Sync time with Home Assistant
time:
- platform: homeassistant
id: ha_time
spi:
clk_pin: 18
miso_pin: 19
mosi_pin: 23
text_sensor:
- platform: wifi_info
ip_address:
name: "IP"
icon: "mdi:ip-outline"
update_interval: ${update_interval_wifi}
ssid:
name: "SSID"
icon: "mdi:wifi-settings"
update_interval: ${update_interval_wifi}
bssid:
name: "BSSID"
icon: "mdi:wifi-settings"
update_interval: ${update_interval_wifi}
mac_address:
name: "MAC"
icon: "mdi:network-outline"
scan_results:
name: "Wifi Scan"
icon: "mdi:wifi-refresh"
disabled_by_default: true
sensor:
- platform: wifi_signal
name: "WiFi Signal"
update_interval: ${update_interval_wifi}
device_class: signal_strength
#IC1
- platform: atm90e32
id: chip1
cs_pin: 5
phase_a:
voltage:
name: "L1 V"
id: ic1Volts
accuracy_decimals: ${v_accuracy}
current:
name: "L1 A"
id: ct1Amps
accuracy_decimals: ${a_accuracy}
# The max value for current that the meter can output is 65.535. If you expect to measure current over 65A,
# divide the gain_ct by 2 (120A CT) or 4 (200A CT) and multiply the current and power values by 2 or 4 by uncommenting the filter below
filters:
- multiply: 4
power:
name: "L1 W"
id: ct1Watts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
filters:
- multiply: 4
#With no load why do I have to filter out negative W values??
- lambda: !lambda |-
if (x < 0) return 0.0;
return x;
gain_voltage: ${v1_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct1}
phase_b:
current:
name: "${appliance1} L1 A" #Dryer
id: ct2Amps
accuracy_decimals: ${a_accuracy}
power:
name: "${appliance1} L1 W" #Dryer
id: ct2Watts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
filters:
- lambda: !lambda |-
if (x < 0) return 0.0;
return x;
gain_voltage: ${v1_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct2}
phase_c:
current:
name: "${appliance2} L1 A" #Oven
id: ct3Amps
accuracy_decimals: ${a_accuracy}
power:
name: "${appliance2} L1 W" #Oven
id: ct3Watts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
filters:
- lambda: !lambda |-
if (x < 0) return 0.0;
return x;
gain_voltage: ${v1_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct3}
frequency:
name: "L1 Hz"
device_class: frequency
chip_temperature:
name: "L1 Chip Temperature"
id: l1_chip_temperature
device_class: temperature
line_frequency: 60Hz
gain_pga: 1X
update_interval: ${update_interval_s}
#IC2
- platform: atm90e32
id: chip2
cs_pin: 4
phase_a:
current:
name: "${appliance2} L2 A" #Oven
id: ct4Amps
accuracy_decimals: ${a_accuracy}
power:
name: "${appliance2} L2 W" #Oven
id: ct4Watts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
filters:
- lambda: !lambda |-
if (x < 0) return 0.0;
return x;
gain_voltage: ${v2_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct4}
phase_b:
current:
name: "${appliance1} L2 A" #Dryer
id: ct5Amps
accuracy_decimals: ${a_accuracy}
power:
name: "${appliance1} L2 W" #Dryer
id: ct5Watts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
filters:
- lambda: !lambda |-
if (x < 0) return 0.0;
return x;
gain_voltage: ${v2_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct5}
phase_c:
#this voltage is only needed if monitoring 2 voltages
voltage:
name: "L2 V"
id: ic2Volts
accuracy_decimals: ${v_accuracy}
current:
name: "L2 A"
id: ct6Amps
accuracy_decimals: ${a_accuracy}
# The max value for current that the meter can output is 65.535. If you expect to measure current over 65A,
# divide the gain_ct by 2 (120A CT) or 4 (200A CT) and multiply the current and power values by 2 or 4 by uncommenting the filter below
filters:
- multiply: 4
power:
name: "L2 W"
id: ct6Watts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
filters:
- multiply: 4
- lambda: !lambda |-
if (x < 0) return 0.0;
return x;
gain_voltage: ${v2_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct6}
frequency:
name: "L2 Hz"
device_class: frequency
chip_temperature:
name: "L2 Chip Temperature"
id: l2_chip_temperature
device_class: temperature
line_frequency: 60Hz
gain_pga: 1X
update_interval: ${update_interval_s}
#IC1 AddOn
- platform: atm90e32
id: chip3
cs_pin: 0
phase_a:
voltage:
name: "L1 AO V"
id: ic3Volts
accuracy_decimals: ${v_accuracy}
current:
name: "CT7 Amps"
id: ct7Amps
accuracy_decimals: ${a_accuracy}
power:
name: "CT7 Watts"
id: ct7Watts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
filters:
- lambda: !lambda |-
if (x < 0) return 0.0;
return x;
gain_voltage: ${v3_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct7}
phase_b:
current:
name: "${hvac1} L1 A" #Downstairs
id: ct8Amps
accuracy_decimals: ${a_accuracy}
power:
name: "${hvac1} L1 W" #Downstairs
id: ct8Watts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
filters:
- lambda: !lambda |-
if (x < 0) return 0.0;
return x;
gain_voltage: ${v3_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct8}
phase_c:
current:
name: "${hvac2} L1 A" #Upstairs
id: ct9Amps
accuracy_decimals: ${a_accuracy}
power:
name: "${hvac2} L1 W" #Upstairs
id: ct9Watts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
filters:
- lambda: !lambda |-
if (x < 0) return 0.0;
return x;
gain_voltage: ${v3_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct9}
line_frequency: 60Hz
gain_pga: 1X
update_interval: ${update_interval_s}
#IC2 AddOn
- platform: atm90e32
id: chip4
cs_pin: 16
phase_a:
current:
name: "${hvac2} L2 A" #Upstairs
id: ct10Amps
accuracy_decimals: ${a_accuracy}
power:
name: "${hvac2} L2 W" #Upstairs
id: ct10Watts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
filters:
- lambda: !lambda |-
if (x < 0) return 0.0;
return x;
gain_voltage: ${v4_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct10}
phase_b:
current:
name: "${hvac1} L2 A" #Downstairs
id: ct11Amps
accuracy_decimals: ${a_accuracy}
power:
name: "${hvac1} L2 W" #Downstairs
id: ct11Watts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
filters:
- lambda: !lambda |-
if (x < 0) return 0.0;
return x;
gain_voltage: ${v4_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct11}
phase_c:
voltage:
name: "L2 AO V"
id: ic4Volts
accuracy_decimals: ${v_accuracy}
current:
name: "CT12 Amps"
id: ct12Amps
accuracy_decimals: ${a_accuracy}
power:
name: "CT12 Watts"
id: ct12Watts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
filters:
- lambda: !lambda |-
if (x < 0) return 0.0;
return x;
gain_voltage: ${v4_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct12}
line_frequency: 60Hz
gain_pga: 1X
update_interval: ${update_interval_s}
#Appliance1 Watts (Dryer)
- platform: template
name: "${appliance1} W" #Dryer
id: appliance1TotalWatts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
lambda: return id(ct2Watts).state + id(ct5Watts).state ;
unit_of_measurement: "W"
device_class: power
update_interval: ${update_interval_s_totals}
#Appliance1 Amps (Dryer)
- platform: template
name: "${appliance1} A" #Dryer
id: appliance1TotalAmps
accuracy_decimals: ${a_accuracy}
lambda: return id(ct2Amps).state + id(ct5Amps).state ;
unit_of_measurement: "A"
device_class: current
update_interval: ${update_interval_s_totals}
#Appliance1 kWh - (Dryer)
- platform: total_daily_energy
name: "${appliance1} kWh" #Dryer
power_id: appliance1TotalWatts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
filters:
- multiply: 0.001
unit_of_measurement: "kWh"
device_class: energy
state_class: total_increasing
#Appliance2 Total Watts (Oven)
- platform: template
name: "${appliance2} W" #Oven
id: appliance2TotalWatts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
lambda: return id(ct3Watts).state + id(ct4Watts).state ;
unit_of_measurement: "W"
device_class: power
update_interval: ${update_interval_s_totals}
#Appliance2 Total Amps (Oven)
- platform: template
name: "${appliance2} A" #Oven
id: appliance2TotalAmps
accuracy_decimals: ${a_accuracy}
lambda: return id(ct3Amps).state + id(ct4Amps).state ;
unit_of_measurement: "A"
device_class: current
update_interval: ${update_interval_s_totals}
#Appliance2 kWh - (Oven)
- platform: total_daily_energy
name: "${appliance2} kWh" #Oven
power_id: appliance2TotalWatts
accuracy_decimals: ${kwh_accuracy}
filters:
- multiply: 0.001
unit_of_measurement: "kWh"
device_class: energy
state_class: total_increasing
#HVAC1 Watts (Downstairs)
- platform: template
name: "${hvac1} W" #Downstairs
id: hvac1TotalWatts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
lambda: return id(ct8Watts).state + id(ct11Watts).state ;
unit_of_measurement: "W"
device_class: power
update_interval: ${update_interval_s_totals}
#HVAC1 Amps (Downstairs)
- platform: template
name: "${hvac1} A" #Downstairs
id: hvac1TotalAmps
accuracy_decimals: ${a_accuracy}
lambda: return id(ct8Amps).state + id(ct11Amps).state ;
unit_of_measurement: "A"
device_class: current
update_interval: ${update_interval_s_totals}
#HVAC1 kWh (Downstairs)
- platform: total_daily_energy
name: "${hvac1} kWh" #Downstairs
power_id: hvac1TotalWatts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
filters:
- multiply: 0.001
unit_of_measurement: "kWh"
device_class: energy
state_class: total_increasing
#HVAC2 Watts (Upstairs)
- platform: template
name: "${hvac2} W" #Upstairs
id: hvac2TotalWatts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
lambda: return id(ct9Watts).state + id(ct10Watts).state ;
unit_of_measurement: "W"
device_class: power
update_interval: ${update_interval_s_totals}
#HVAC2 Amps (Upstairs)
- platform: template
name: "${hvac2} A" #Upstairs
id: hvac2TotalAmps
accuracy_decimals: ${a_accuracy}
lambda: return id(ct9Amps).state + id(ct10Amps).state ;
unit_of_measurement: "A"
device_class: current
update_interval: ${update_interval_s_totals}
#HVAC2 kWh (Upstairs)
- platform: total_daily_energy
name: "${hvac2} kWh" #Upstairs
power_id: hvac2TotalWatts
accuracy_decimals: ${kwh_accuracy}
filters:
- multiply: 0.001
unit_of_measurement: "kWh"
device_class: energy
state_class: total_increasing
#Watts - L1 & L2
- platform: template
name: "L1 & L2 W"
id: l1l2Watts
accuracy_decimals: ${w_accuracy}
lambda: return id(ct1Watts).state + id(ct6Watts).state ;
unit_of_measurement: "W"
device_class: power
update_interval: ${update_interval_s_totals}
#Amps - L1 & L2
- platform: template
name: "L1 & L2 A"
id: l1l2Amps
accuracy_decimals: ${a_accuracy}
lambda: return id(ct1Amps).state + id(ct6Amps).state ;
unit_of_measurement: "A"
device_class: current
update_interval: ${update_interval_s_totals}
#Volts - L1 & L2 - Average
- platform: template
name: "L1 & L2 V (Avg)"
id: l1l2Volts
accuracy_decimals: ${v_accuracy}
lambda: return (id(ic1Volts).state + id(ic2Volts).state)/2;
unit_of_measurement: "V"
device_class: voltage
update_interval: ${update_interval_s_totals}
#kWh - L1
- platform: total_daily_energy
name: "L1 kWh"
power_id: ct1Watts
accuracy_decimals: ${kwh_accuracy}
filters:
- multiply: 0.001
unit_of_measurement: "kWh"
device_class: energy
state_class: total_increasing
#kWh - L2
- platform: total_daily_energy
name: "L2 kWh"
power_id: ct6Watts
accuracy_decimals: ${kwh_accuracy}
filters:
- multiply: 0.001
unit_of_measurement: "kWh"
device_class: energy
state_class: total_increasing
#kWh - Whole House (L1 + L2)
- platform: total_daily_energy
name: "L1 & L2 kWh"
power_id: l1l2Watts
accuracy_decimals: ${kwh_accuracy}
filters:
- multiply: 0.001
unit_of_measurement: "kWh"
device_class: energy
state_class: total_increasing
button:
- platform: safe_mode
name: "Restart (Safe Mode)"
entity_category: diagnostic
- platform: restart
name: "Restart"
entity_category: diagnostic
- platform: template
name: "IC Setup"
on_press:
then:
lambda: !lambda |-
id(chip1).setup();
id(chip2).setup();
id(chip3).setup();
id(chip4).setup();
from expandable-6-channel-esp32-energy-meter.
There are some code issues that I suspect need to be addressed.
The code does a SoftReset reg write and fails to wait the required time b4 writing out other reg values.
this->write16_(ATM90E32_REGISTER_SOFTRESET, 0x789A); // Perform soft reset
this->write16_(ATM90E32_REGISTER_CFGREGACCEN, 0x55AA); // enable register config access
this->write16_(ATM90E32_REGISTER_METEREN, 0x0001); // Enable Metering
if (this->read16_(ATM90E32_REGISTER_LASTSPIDATA) != 0x0001) {
ESP_LOGW(TAG, "Could not initialize ATM90E32 IC, check SPI settings");
this->mark_failed();
return;
}
There are no checks to see if the subsequent write is ack'd after the reset. This can be why you are seeing differing results. The ATM90E32 has a verification method where all that is needed is a compare to the LastSPIData and the Buffer value. This should be changed so that the next write operation is verified after reset and it needs to wait 5ms + 1ms which is the minimum + 1 which applieas to a powered on state.
I have increased the SPI clock to 2MHz and see no issues.
I have also added the delay and check in the code of my branch named component.atm90e32
this->write16_(ATM90E32_REGISTER_SOFTRESET, 0x789A); // Perform soft reset
delay(6); // Wait the minimum time after reset
this->write16_(ATM90E32_REGISTER_CFGREGACCEN, 0x55AA); // enable register config access
if (this->read16_(ATM90E32_REGISTER_LASTSPIDATA) != 0x55AA) {
ESP_LOGW(TAG, "Could not initialize ATM90E32 IC, check SPI settings");
this->mark_failed();
return;
}
from expandable-6-channel-esp32-energy-meter.
@descipher I reflashed my system to pull in your latest changes and this is what happened:
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/258592110-95f4876c-0f6c-472a-9bd7-cb5b369a97a0.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.xt_riQIexMNGTQA4s0ANmbUb1m0-pU8RhFGJYSi67j4)
The first red arrow is when I reflashed it but left the update rate at 10s. The second arrow was when I reflashed it after reducing the update rate to 3s.
I let some time go by and reflashed it again without making any changes. The gap between L1 and L2 remained, but blue and green swapped places again (see graph below). The line that is closest to the actual value is the bottom one when only considering blue and green.
The gap may be a result of my previous calibration which may need to be adjusted after your changes, however the two L1 seem to still be trading places. [Edit: this seems to be disproved by the latest graph where all measurements match]
I reflashed the ESP again... and this time something interesting happened... Green (L1 V) now jives with L2 and L2 AO as it should given they are all measuring the same thing. The error on blue seems to have remained the same.
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/258591083-bd192f50-192e-4f02-9dd5-0ab365410c4d.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJnaXRodWIuY29tIiwiYXVkIjoicmF3LmdpdGh1YnVzZXJjb250ZW50LmNvbSIsImtleSI6ImtleTUiLCJleHAiOjE3MjEyMzExMTksIm5iZiI6MTcyMTIzMDgxOSwicGF0aCI6Ii80MDA2OTQ0LzI1ODU5MTA4My1iZDE5MmY1MC0xOTJlLTRmMDItOWRkNS0wYWIzNjU0MTBjNGQucG5nP1gtQW16LUFsZ29yaXRobT1BV1M0LUhNQUMtU0hBMjU2JlgtQW16LUNyZWRlbnRpYWw9QUtJQVZDT0RZTFNBNTNQUUs0WkElMkYyMDI0MDcxNyUyRnVzLWVhc3QtMSUyRnMzJTJGYXdzNF9yZXF1ZXN0JlgtQW16LURhdGU9MjAyNDA3MTdUMTU0MDE5WiZYLUFtei1FeHBpcmVzPTMwMCZYLUFtei1TaWduYXR1cmU9ZjY2N2Q3YWY0NGNkNjJjMjRkY2JmZTViZGI3Njc4NzU0Mzc5MTRiYWFjZjc3OWQ3ZGUyMWIxMDYxN2ViZDVlMSZYLUFtei1TaWduZWRIZWFkZXJzPWhvc3QmYWN0b3JfaWQ9MCZrZXlfaWQ9MCZyZXBvX2lkPTAifQ.91txL3g7goAIOlXnNWeKpeCcaEgzYIIIpbWc86dH1Y0)
Flashed it again and green joined blue again...
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/258591245-80fd4f8b-a148-4cfd-8dd4-50d961eb981a.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.4dY8fsWuEJr0r7N1KhVWfM5h-eDFL2wn8WwQlBmOous)
I rebooted the system many times to see if I could trigger the issue but it doesn't seem to have the same effect of a reflash (without changes). I reflashed the system a few times and the system is working properly (only to revert to the error at the next flash as this is not the first time it happens):
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/258591697-74460dab-c99b-493a-a7aa-9cd585c8a99f.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJnaXRodWIuY29tIiwiYXVkIjoicmF3LmdpdGh1YnVzZXJjb250ZW50LmNvbSIsImtleSI6ImtleTUiLCJleHAiOjE3MjEyMzExMTksIm5iZiI6MTcyMTIzMDgxOSwicGF0aCI6Ii80MDA2OTQ0LzI1ODU5MTY5Ny03NDQ2MGRhYi1jOTliLTQ5M2EtYTdhYS05Y2Q1ODVjOGE5OWYucG5nP1gtQW16LUFsZ29yaXRobT1BV1M0LUhNQUMtU0hBMjU2JlgtQW16LUNyZWRlbnRpYWw9QUtJQVZDT0RZTFNBNTNQUUs0WkElMkYyMDI0MDcxNyUyRnVzLWVhc3QtMSUyRnMzJTJGYXdzNF9yZXF1ZXN0JlgtQW16LURhdGU9MjAyNDA3MTdUMTU0MDE5WiZYLUFtei1FeHBpcmVzPTMwMCZYLUFtei1TaWduYXR1cmU9MjlhZmFiMGI5MDBhZjkxYmQ1YzJmNzk5NDhmYzZiNTE4OGM3MTNlN2VmNWU2Y2Q0MjQ3MjcyNDU1ZjcxNDVkMyZYLUFtei1TaWduZWRIZWFkZXJzPWhvc3QmYWN0b3JfaWQ9MCZrZXlfaWQ9MCZyZXBvX2lkPTAifQ.nFxgg6YLA_hvrRb0YRDVIQJy7H1C-eyv3lX-O-Tnq4E)
More granular view showing the desired behavior (!!). I can't say that rebooting it a random number of times would not produce this.
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/258591808-1d7c71da-f47b-4b32-9384-ae6f5cb159d8.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.bVsWqN65nsd2GeinSzd2VwmcxXSFFZIB_lQzesiuQL4)
One thing I have not mentioned, is that the two transformers that provide the low AC voltage representing line voltage are different as one has a nominal output of 9V and the other 12V (actual measured it quite a bit higher). Just mentioning it for completeness. Regardless, this lates graph shows the "expected" and "desired" behavior so I am guessing my setup is ok and that the issue is probably still in software.
Edit: A while later... a reboot broke the party:
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/258593737-32b6e060-1c0d-41e9-8364-95becf9f1064.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.XDS5q78cUaQgX-lEtYjZuggzpBR6iEK23-ka4BCCLhs)
Edit2: Many reboots later, I see the issue happening and I often see all of the measurements "jive" right after the reboot, and then the error appears on the next sample:
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/258594342-1636996c-ab44-44d0-b1f6-ca6ad5d34d9b.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.-qqNX3mUkr5_gI--Mzoq3cfuSZpNQoW5JbiQHs0MJow)
The error often appears to be somewhere around 0.5V although it is hard to determine what the error actually is. What I am calling error is the rough difference this is mostly just the delta between the bunch and the outlier as shown here:
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/258594467-ac1a2df2-26c9-4fed-834f-e2f66566c88d.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.NG6iaJWzvjONvvrDXYwcsLN2Kka6tp3Z9dM1T8O9UPM)
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Need to review the application guide. 2MHz may need a delay in some specific operations. I see no issues on a single chip running an esp8266. Your Esp32 is faster and that will make a small difference.
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Also, the issue I am seeing is across 2 boards with a total of 4 atm90e32 chips which may be another reason you are not seeing it. Maybe the issue lies with whatever happens when the 4 chips are setup/sync'd.
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One of the thoughts I have surrounds the possibility that we are seeing a gain uniformity problem. We will need to supply the same rms source to all the voltage inputs in order to verify that type of problem. The reason I suspect that is because there appears to be an ADC resolution threshold in which we see a step up in value for a measurements. Averaging would help somewhat but it would not fix it. So yes the 12v vs 9v inputs are related to that type of issue. Try setting the gain equal for all voltage inputs and see is what it reads. This will also help see if there is uniformity.
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Added the voltage offset calibration init to my repo.
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Added the voltage offset calibration init to my repo.
Excellent work!
I originally wrote something to calibrate the offset registers for the arduino library, but it was never carried over to the esphome sensor.
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Added the voltage offset calibration init to my repo.
Excellent work!
I originally wrote something to calibrate the offset registers for the arduino library, but it was never carried over to the esphome sensor.
Thanks,
Also just added the current offset calibration and applied some averaging to the voltage reads to see if we get better stability.
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I am now using the same 12V AC 1A transformer for all voltage inputs. Before readjusting the calibration values, I was now reading 119V and 127V so 8V AC difference.
My calibration settings changed as follows:
#WHEN USING 2 TRANSFORMERS
# v1_cal: '5022' #green
# v2_cal: '5378' #yellow
# v3_cal: '5004' #blue
# v4_cal: '5352' #orange
#FOR TESTING ONLY - USING SINGLE TRANSFORMER
v1_cal: '5020' #green
v2_cal: '5028' #yellow
v3_cal: '5002' #blue
v4_cal: '5002' #orange
The bottom 3 tend to jive well with my 5 1/2 digit DMM, and as before, blue and green trade places upon a reflash with no changes made. It took 3 back to back reboots to make it happen again so it seems a bit more repeatable with reflashes.
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/258652952-8f85b6b3-7f18-46e8-b996-8328298cbefa.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.BscrRChDN_9d16XOFWXNXh0ofBe_Hkgz_oS8MSSOS_c)
After multiple reboots, the distribution of the 4 voltage measurements seems to have widened as if the error can affect other inputs like L2 AO V (orange) but in the opposite direction.
A reflash w/o changes confirmed it:
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/258653459-e97034fe-9577-45da-af30-159145dacbb1.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.x8XRlBs5UzkVhSeOBB68cEUkCYg_2Xs0uM5N_zD7ET8)
Note that yellow and orange jive again... and green and blue traded places.
@descipher - Do I have to add any YAML to take advantage of any of the new settings (offsets, etc) that you have implemented?
I wish I could eliminate the line fluctuations (this morning while doing this, it constantly fluctuated between 118 and 120V). Just makes it a bit harder to observe the effects of everything else I am doing.
EDIT: It always seems that the 2nd trace is the closest to the actual value. It am trying to get the others to get closer but it seems like a change made to one affects the others - just hard to tell with the constant fluctuations.
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That tells me it not a gain unity issue. Is that flashed currently?
The calibration does not require input control. It just reads the voltage 5 times averages it the calculates the two’s compliment as described in the ref. I am going to check with Atmel on the calibration, something does not look right to me.
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That tells me it not a gain unity issue. Is that flashed currently?
Not sure I understand what you are referring to. I am assuming that whenever I recompile I am pulling in your custom component. given I see this at the top of my logs:
INFO ESPHome 2023.7.1
INFO Reading configuration /config/esphome/home-energy-meter.yaml...
INFO Updating https://github.com/descipher/[email protected]
I really appreciate all the troubleshooting you are doing with me!!
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The refresh value of 0 will force an update on every compile. Your welcome.
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I believe I have an answer to your calibration problem. Looking closely at your yaml config I can see issues.
Each board has two chips and the voltage is fed into separate circuits from the two AC tranformer rms references.
With a single AC transformer as a reference it would require three different gain settings on each chip using the one AC rms reference. In this case they are all the same. (e.g. v1_cal is set on phase a,b,c) Each chips phase voltage inputs have different resistor networks and each one can vary up to 5% Now considering we have L1 and L2 measurements accross phase a,b and c then we need to give them all separate voltage gain calibration values and not use only the 4 defined as substitutions. The circuits are all slightly different and thats why we are seeing a small differences when 4 values are applied.
substitutions:
v1_cal: '5018' #5022 1L1
v2_cal: '5388' #5378 1L2 V2 and V4 match when stable 60Hz sine is fed to them. Do not change independently
v3_cal: '4998' #5004 2L1 (AO)
v4_cal: '5362' #5352 2L2 (AO) V2 and V4 match when stable 60Hz sine is fed to them. Do not change independently
This is the method Atmel uses to calculate the voltage gain for each independant input circuits gain register.
Example: Voltage gain calibration
Assume:
The initial value of phase A voltage gain register UgainA is 8000H (32768)
Reference meter output voltage is 220.00V
Voltage rms register readout UrmsA = 3039H (12345)
The higher 8 bits of voltage LSB register readout UrmsALSB = 43H (67)
Thus:
voltage measured value = (UrmsA x 0.01) + (UrmsALSB x 0.01 / 256)
= (12345 x 0.01) + (67 x 0.01 / 256)
=123.453 V
voltage gain = 220.00 / 123.453 x 32768 = 58395 = 0E41BH
So the register can be set to:
UgainA = 0E41BH
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All this calibration thing is true for a constant difference between readings but there should be something else that changes after (each) restart.
If you look my #88 (comment) you see how relatively stable is the difference between resets.
I haven't played with that meantime but what I finally found was that just running chip reset code itself didn't change anything but whole ESPHome restart did (flashing also does reset the controller). I'm not sure if SPI init could make any difference.
Anyway, it is good to know that I'm not the only one seeing this and maybe we can figure out what is going on in this chip.
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All this calibration thing is true for a constant difference between readings but there should be something else that changes after (each) restart.
If you look my #88 (comment) you see how relatively stable is the difference between resets.
I haven't played with that meantime but what I finally found was that just running chip reset code itself didn't change anything but whole ESPHome restart did (flashing also does reset the controller). I'm not sure if SPI init could make any difference.
Anyway, it is good to know that I'm not the only one seeing this and maybe we can figure out what is going on in this chip.
It's possible that we are observing an order of init anomaly due to the lambda's. These are callbacks that are fired almost simutaneouly. Depending on the SPI reply time each will have a possiblility or order variation.
This may be the random change element that skews the measurement order. This could be handled by the python init as a solution to the possible order variations.
- platform: template
name: "IC Setup"
on_press:
then:
lambda: !lambda |-
id(chip1).setup();
id(chip2).setup();
id(chip3).setup();
id(chip4).setup();
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@descipher The last code snippet was just me trying to implement a reset of the 4 chips by pressing a button. Something @Cougar was discussing in prior posts but it doesn't appear to trigger the issue I am seeing. To avoid confusion, I will remove that code from my YAML.
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Ok, sorry miss read on that lambda . Can you try setting the 4 specific phase voltage inputs to their respective gains without the substitutions.
e.g. only directly set the voltage gain for the phase x point where you have the AC input connected and sending out to HA.
This way we know exactly what resistor network values we are actually reading from, all others would be out of spec from the calibration and immediatly observed as abnormal.
yaml would be directly set.
phase a:
voltage:
name: "L1 V"
id: icxVolts
accuracy_decimals: ${v_accuracy}
gain_voltage: 5000
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ctx}
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With a single AC transformer as a reference it would require three different gain settings on each chip using the one AC rms reference. In this case they are all the same. (e.g. v1_cal is set on phase a,b,c) Each chips phase voltage inputs have different resistor networks and each one can vary up to 5%
There shouldn't be any difference between the 3 voltage channels per meter chip because they are all tied together off of the same resistor dividers. Additionally, any boards made in the past couple years have 1% resistor arrays, and 0.1% resistor dividers (and burden resistors).
The only thing that would be causing any variance between the voltage channels is the timing of the registers being read, Averaging multiple readings should solve that issue. That being said, the power calculations are done internally, and if you had a current transformer measuring the same load over the same amount of time, the accumulated watt hours would be the same.
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With a single AC transformer as a reference it would require three different gain settings on each chip using the one AC rms reference. In this case they are all the same. (e.g. v1_cal is set on phase a,b,c) Each chips phase voltage inputs have different resistor networks and each one can vary up to 5%
There shouldn't be any difference between the 3 voltage channels per meter chip because they are all tied together off of the same resistor dividers. Additionally, any boards made in the past couple years have 1% resistor arrays, and 0.1% resistor dividers (and burden resistors).
The only thing that would be causing any variance between the voltage channels is the timing of the registers being read, Averaging multiple readings should solve that issue. That being said, the power calculations are done internally, and if you had a current transformer measuring the same load over the same amount of time, the accumulated watt hours would be the same.
@CircuitSetup Thanks for the clarification on the resistor tollerance, I assume this is a 1.4 rev 1 board, based on the circuit for the 1.4 rev1 board you published we have a 20:1 divider into VAP and VAN on IC1 which is connected to phase A,B,C or VAP2 and VAN2 to IC2 phase A,B,C. I see @alexruffell has a configuration is set for L1 to VAP and VAN sourced from phase_a and L2 to VAP2 and VAN2 which is sourced from phase _c. Since all phases are connected then only the divider for one chip would have any variance and since its a 4 pack they should be extremely close in value. But two boards will have separate packs with up to 1% variation and based on the datasheet we could see up to 0.01v RMS which will be calc up to plus or minus 0.5v on the HA send.
The code updates on my repo are currently doing averaging over 10 consecutive reads so thats not the issue.
What I need to see is the result of the gain setting directly on the expected phase to see if there is a reading from an unexpected source outside of what is targeted. That will show up immediatedly if the gain is only set on the used target inputs.
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@descipher - My house is powered by a residential 240V 200A split phase supply. As far as I recall, each board has 3 channels on one phase and 3 on another phase therefore when I install this, I need to ensure the CTs are installed on the matching phase.
Before I rewired to feed both boards from the same transformer for testing purposes, I had a 12V 14VA transformer feed the main voltage input for both boards, and a 9V 1.5VA feed the secondary voltage input for both boards. I am looking into buying 2 identical encapsulated transformers to reduce variables but am struggling with finding one powerful enough (for ESP and to avoid excessive fluctuations during TX) but also small enough to fit on the PCB.
I did not write the original YAML so I don't know why it was setup as it is. I modified it quite a bit but not the core structure. I figured the 4 voltage calibrations were needed because each board has an input that measures voltage from both transformers (one per phase). Therefore L1 V and L1 AO V are from the same phase/transformer, and the same applies for L2 V and L2 AO V (AO is the add-on board). From all my tinkering I seem to be able to get "close enough" readings for voltage measurements on the same phase (ie: L1V & L1 AO V) but have trouble getting L1 and L2 voltages closer.
Anyhow, if I persistently reflash / reboot the ESP32 without code changes, on occasion all 4 voltage inputs get much closer as discussed in a prior post. The graph that shows it is this one (see !!):
While improving overall accuracy is great, I think that eliminating that "error" that occasionally affects x number of inputs is more important. Why would one or more inputs measure voltages close to actual only to skew away ~0.5V up or down after a reflash? Tolerances, design imperfections, etc would introduce error that would likely be constant or change slowly, but what I observe is a sudden change that pushes an otherwise calibrated channel off by ~0.5V.
I am glad to make any changes you require but am unsure I understood your instructions. Below is a simplified version of the YAML where the vn_cal are used.
Main Board
IC1
phase a, b, c use v1_cal
IC2
phase a, b, c use v2_cal
Addon Board
IC1
phase a, b, c use v3_cal
IC2
phase a, b, c use v4_cal
#IC1
- platform: atm90e32
id: chip1
cs_pin: 5
phase_a:
voltage:
name: "L1 V"
id: ic1Volts
current:
name: "L1 A"
id: ct1Amps
# The max value for current that the meter can output is 65.535. If you expect to measure current over 65A,
# divide the gain_ct by 2 (120A CT) or 4 (200A CT) and multiply the current and power values by 2 or 4
filters:
- multiply: 4
power:
name: "L1 W"
id: ct1Watts
filters:
- multiply: 4
gain_voltage: ${v1_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct1}
phase_b:
current:
name: "${appliance1} L1 A" #Dryer
id: ct2Amps
power:
name: "${appliance1} L1 W" #Dryer
id: ct2Watts
gain_voltage: ${v1_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct2}
phase_c:
current:
name: "${appliance2} L1 A" #Oven
id: ct3Amps
power:
name: "${appliance2} L1 W" #Oven
id: ct3Watts
gain_voltage: ${v1_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct3}
frequency:
name: "L1 Hz"
device_class: frequency
line_frequency: 60Hz
gain_pga: 1X
#IC2
- platform: atm90e32
id: chip2
cs_pin: 4
phase_a:
current:
name: "${appliance2} L2 A" #Oven
id: ct4Amps
power:
name: "${appliance2} L2 W" #Oven
id: ct4Watts
gain_voltage: ${v2_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct4}
phase_b:
current:
name: "${appliance1} L2 A" #Dryer
id: ct5Amps
power:
name: "${appliance1} L2 W" #Dryer
id: ct5Watts
gain_voltage: ${v2_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct5}
phase_c:
#this voltage is only needed if monitoring 2 voltages
voltage:
name: "L2 V"
id: ic2Volts
current:
name: "L2 A"
id: ct6Amps
# The max value for current that the meter can output is 65.535. If you expect to measure current over 65A,
# divide the gain_ct by 2 (120A CT) or 4 (200A CT) and multiply the current and power values by 2 or 4
filters:
- multiply: 4
power:
name: "L2 W"
id: ct6Watts
filters:
- multiply: 4
gain_voltage: ${v2_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct6}
frequency:
name: "L2 Hz"
device_class: frequency
line_frequency: 60Hz
gain_pga: 1X
#IC1 AddOn
- platform: atm90e32
id: chip3
cs_pin: 0
phase_a:
voltage:
name: "L1 AO V"
id: ic3Volts
current:
name: "CT7 Amps"
id: ct7Amps
power:
name: "CT7 Watts"
id: ct7Watts
gain_voltage: ${v3_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct7}
phase_b:
current:
name: "${hvac1} L1 A" #Downstairs
id: ct8Amps
power:
name: "${hvac1} L1 W" #Downstairs
id: ct8Watts
gain_voltage: ${v3_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct8}
phase_c:
current:
name: "${hvac2} L1 A" #Upstairs
id: ct9Amps
power:
name: "${hvac2} L1 W" #Upstairs
id: ct9Watts
gain_voltage: ${v3_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct9}
line_frequency: 60Hz
gain_pga: 1X
#IC2 AddOn
- platform: atm90e32
id: chip4
cs_pin: 16
phase_a:
current:
name: "${hvac2} L2 A" #Upstairs
id: ct10Amps
power:
name: "${hvac2} L2 W" #Upstairs
id: ct10Watts
gain_voltage: ${v4_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct10}
phase_b:
current:
name: "${hvac1} L2 A" #Downstairs
id: ct11Amps
power:
name: "${hvac1} L2 W" #Downstairs
id: ct11Watts
gain_voltage: ${v4_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct11}
phase_c:
voltage:
name: "L2 AO V"
id: ic4Volts
current:
name: "CT12 Amps"
id: ct12Amps
power:
name: "CT12 Watts"
id: ct12Watts
gain_voltage: ${v4_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct12}
line_frequency: 60Hz
gain_pga: 1X
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@CircuitSetup Thanks for the clarification on the resistor tollerance, I assume this is a 1.4 rev 1 board, based on the circuit for the 1.4 rev1 board you published we have a 20:1 divider into VAP and VAN on IC1 which is connected to phase A,B,C or VAP2 and VAN2 to IC2 phase A,B,C. I see @alexruffell has a configuration is set for L1 to VAP and VAN sourced from phase_a and L2 to VAP2 and VAN2 which is sourced from phase _c. Since all phases are connected then only the divider for one chip would have any variance and since its a 4 pack they should be extremely close in value. But two boards will have separate packs with up to 1% variation and based on the datasheet we could see up to 0.01v RMS which will be calc up to plus or minus 0.5v on the HA send.
That is correct. It's unclear on the datasheet whether the plus minus 0.5% variance is between ADC channels on a single chip, or from chip to chip. It just says "less than ±0.5% fiducial error for Vrms, Irms, mean active/ reactive/ apparent power, frequency, power factor and phase angle."
The code updates on my repo are currently doing averaging over 10 consecutive reads so thats not the issue. What I need to see is the result of the gain setting directly on the expected phase to see if there is a reading from an unexpected source outside of what is targeted. That will show up immediatedly if the gain is only set on the used target inputs.
One other thing to consider is that VAP/VAN also go into a rectifier/capacitor before going into the SMPS. The capacitor distorts the AC waveform a bit when charging up. This normally isn't a problem as long as the waveform's not distorted to begin with.
Also, I'm not sure if this matters or not since I haven't tested it, but the Application Note indicates the offset calibration should be done before the gain calibration. I believe you have the offset running after the gain in your code.
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I figured the 4 voltage calibrations were needed because each board has an input that measures voltage from both transformers
Yes, that is correct if you want the highest level of accuracy.
Why would one or more inputs measure voltages close to actual only to skew away ~0.5V up or down after a reflash?
That I still can't figure out. I thought the offset calibration with averages would correct this. Now I'm wondering if it's just a matter of which calibration code is firing first. Have you tried moving any voltage reading from phase_c to phase_a?
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I am also wondering whether the 4 voltage readings are actually necessary to read 6 power measurements. Would it be possible to just use the L1 and L2 voltages measurements from one of the two boards for the purposes of the entire system? I am guessing not as each chip will independently read voltage & current and calculate power by multiplying the two?
They can't be internally mapped to each other, no. You could do the calculation with an ESPHome lambda, but that would add additional overhead to the ESP32 (which may be okay, but depends largely on how much data you're collecting).
Regardless, you don't need to output all 4 voltages for the power calculations to be done on the metering chips. That happens independently of the ESP32.
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Also, I'm not sure if this matters or not since I haven't tested it, but the Application Note indicates the offset calibration should be done before the gain calibration. I believe you have the offset running after the gain in your code.
I missed that order statement, will change it in case it does matter.
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I am also wondering whether the 4 voltage readings are actually necessary to read 6 power measurements. Would it be possible to just use the L1 and L2 voltages measurements from one of the two boards for the purposes of the entire system? I am guessing not as each chip will independently read voltage & current and calculate power by multiplying the two?
They can't be internally mapped to each other, no. You could do the calculation with an ESPHome lambda, but that would add additional overhead to the ESP32 (which may be okay, but depends largely on how much data you're collecting).
Regardless, you don't need to output all 4 voltages for the power calculations to be done on the metering chips. That happens independently of the ESP32.
I can concur that you only need to set voltage/current gain at the instances of L1 and L2 phases for a chip to calculate split phase correctly, the two voltages can be measured from any board. You would need to set the right gains for input CTs and LINE voltage for the specific circuit. Keep in mind that a voltage can drop significantly if sourced at the end of a heavily loaded conductor. Since a chip has the VA feed send to all phases then for the highest level of accuracy you want to match it with the corresponing LINE+Voltage. E.g if its sent a VA of L1's voltage then keep the CT's from L1 on that chip.
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I am glad to make any changes you require but am unsure I understood your instructions. Below is a simplified version of the YAML where the vn_cal are used.
Main Board IC1 phase a, b, c use v1_cal IC2 phase a, b, c use v2_cal
Addon Board IC1 phase a, b, c use v3_cal IC2 phase a, b, c use v4_cal
@alexruffell The information I am looking for is if there are voltages reads coming from an unexpected source register. For example we read UrmsA and we get some other data back that is not the target. This tells me there are SPI read problems that are not being validated and thus we need to do something to ensure we are getting back the correct register address data.
To do this we only set gain on specific voltage inputs we expect to be accurate, reads of any other inputs will be default to a gain of 0x8000H and will be obviouly out of range when calculated.
This temporary test yaml has the substitute variable lines commented out on the non-target phases per chip.
#IC1
- platform: atm90e32
id: chip1
cs_pin: 5
phase_a:
voltage:
name: "L1 V"
id: ic1Volts
current:
name: "L1 A"
id: ct1Amps
filters:
- multiply: 4
power:
name: "L1 W"
id: ct1Watts
filters:
- multiply: 4
gain_voltage: ${v1_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct1}
phase_b:
current:
name: "${appliance1} L1 A" #Dryer
id: ct2Amps
power:
name: "${appliance1} L1 W" #Dryer
id: ct2Watts
#gain_voltage: ${v1_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct2}
phase_c:
current:
name: "${appliance2} L1 A" #Oven
id: ct3Amps
power:
name: "${appliance2} L1 W" #Oven
id: ct3Watts
#gain_voltage: ${v1_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct3}
frequency:
name: "L1 Hz"
device_class: frequency
line_frequency: 60Hz
gain_pga: 1X
#IC2
- platform: atm90e32
id: chip2
cs_pin: 4
phase_a:
current:
name: "${appliance2} L2 A" #Oven
id: ct4Amps
power:
name: "${appliance2} L2 W" #Oven
id: ct4Watts
#gain_voltage: ${v2_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct4}
phase_b:
current:
name: "${appliance1} L2 A" #Dryer
id: ct5Amps
power:
name: "${appliance1} L2 W" #Dryer
id: ct5Watts
#gain_voltage: ${v2_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct5}
phase_c:
voltage:
name: "L2 V"
id: ic2Volts
current:
name: "L2 A"
id: ct6Amps
filters:
- multiply: 4
power:
name: "L2 W"
id: ct6Watts
filters:
- multiply: 4
gain_voltage: ${v2_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct6}
frequency:
name: "L2 Hz"
device_class: frequency
line_frequency: 60Hz
gain_pga: 1X
#IC1 AddOn
- platform: atm90e32
id: chip3
cs_pin: 0
phase_a:
voltage:
name: "L1 AO V"
id: ic3Volts
current:
name: "CT7 Amps"
id: ct7Amps
power:
name: "CT7 Watts"
id: ct7Watts
gain_voltage: ${v3_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct7}
phase_b:
current:
name: "${hvac1} L1 A" #Downstairs
id: ct8Amps
power:
name: "${hvac1} L1 W" #Downstairs
id: ct8Watts
#gain_voltage: ${v3_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct8}
phase_c:
current:
name: "${hvac2} L1 A" #Upstairs
id: ct9Amps
power:
name: "${hvac2} L1 W" #Upstairs
id: ct9Watts
#gain_voltage: ${v3_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct9}
line_frequency: 60Hz
gain_pga: 1X
#IC2 AddOn
- platform: atm90e32
id: chip4
cs_pin: 16
phase_a:
current:
name: "${hvac2} L2 A" #Upstairs
id: ct10Amps
power:
name: "${hvac2} L2 W" #Upstairs
id: ct10Watts
#gain_voltage: ${v4_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct10}
phase_b:
current:
name: "${hvac1} L2 A" #Downstairs
id: ct11Amps
power:
name: "${hvac1} L2 W" #Downstairs
id: ct11Watts
#gain_voltage: ${v4_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct11}
phase_c:
voltage:
name: "L2 AO V"
id: ic4Volts
current:
name: "CT12 Amps"
id: ct12Amps
power:
name: "CT12 Watts"
id: ct12Watts
gain_voltage: ${v4_cal}
gain_ct: ${current_cal_ct12}
line_frequency: 60Hz
gain_pga: 1X
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I did a test on one of my test rigs, I fed a 6vac L1 source signal into two phase inputs on a single chip which are networked using1% dividers resistors. I logged output of that measurement and had a consistant phase input variation of 0.25vac +- 0.01v on the inputs before calibrating the gain of each input phase. After calibration there is never a deviation of more than +- 0.01v in the logs. The code in the my repo provides significant voltage accuracy improvements using 10 consecutive averaging reads and the offset calibrations.
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@descipher That's awesome! Thanks so much for taking the time to write and test your code. If you think it's ready for the ESPHome beta, definitely open a pull request.
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@descipher I commented out the gain_voltage
as per your example code, but forgot to change the update rate from 10s to the 3s I use for testing (first red arrow), then I changed it to 3s (second red arrow).
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/260106700-b42bb156-a3b5-4029-aaad-d102e9a7c715.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.6aQ48Ljy0lFFsiiFpHkc6cyBFnCQjmhKkK3ExIG6pT0)
While the measurements appear to be quite close, the graph seems all over the place. Not sure how to interpret this...
Another view with a narrower timespan:
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/260109738-f95df723-f350-44c6-b27b-f9922c006e96.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.IRmASo7TpoRqjt8ZcwlwgipqLuVeqgpwa0u6hsSuwgQ)
The gaps are where I flashed the ESP.
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There are some interesting things going on now. We now know that all reads are the intended registers and nothing weird is going on with the SPI reads. Note that in my recent code it checks every read or write for SPI errors and logs them so check the logs via the esphome control panel when you have time.
One important note is that in the last third of the first chart you posted we can see that L1 A0 V and L2 A0 V are synced and thats very odd, since you should not see that with those phases. L1 an L2 are normally different voltage values and should not act as a sync'd offset value. I would expect that if they were on the same phase. The same thing occurs in the middle on the second chart. Am I suspicious that maybe we are observing and out of order SPI init callback where the slave CS line is not what we think it is on init. Need to rule that out somehow. Can you audit your test system and verify that L1 and L2 are connected the way you expect them to be connected? Can you post a close up photo of the CS jumpers on the boards?
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@descipher The voltage reference for both inputs on both boards is still from the main transformer as you had requested a few posts back. I can revert to using the two separate transformers fed by the same outlet to see what happens.
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@descipher The voltage reference for both inputs on both boards is still from the main transformer as you had requested a few posts back. I can revert to using the two separate transformers fed by the same outlet to see what happens.
If they're fed by the same outlet, then they're reading the same phase, which would defeat the purpose of reading 2 voltages.
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@CircuitSetup The system has been on my workbench for a year... I have not installed it as once I do so, it will be hard to do any troubleshooting to eliminate the issue discussed in this thread. Also, by powering everything with one phase, should make it easier to calibrate it as I should be seeing the same measurement on all voltage inputs. Once it is installed it will be fed by two phases which will both vary randomly.
@descipher BTW, do you recommend I modify my system to use 2 identical transformers? The main issue is the size but assuming I can fit them, should I do so? The image below shows both the large and small transformers I am using. The small one is only for the other phase voltage reference.
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/260241429-58e82d85-f299-4504-88f6-a89d4b9463d7.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.CDyx-pbbZ_Ei9v7r4WOuDpcRnwJxB8xNP0nKjQJN_aE)
EDIT: The large transformer's secondary is wired in series so 12V ac @ 1.2A
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@alexruffell Right! forgot we did that, that explains the phases being in sync so thats good. The reason the read values are close is due to the averaging function thats now active. These results are not bad, I have changed the way polling data retrieval works now by locally reading the registers and storing it and then during a poll the api will get the last stored value. That allows a faster api call avoiding blocking warnings unless the api itself is the delay. The refresh locally is testing at 500ms. I would like to run it faster to see what a reasonable local load/rate would be. One drawback to this method when the refresh is slow like at 500ms it can slightly vary the point in time of read value vs the api point in time value. I am seeing that in your charts.
One thing I noticed is there are the read time deltas with the two board and separate chips. Each SPI slave will have a small read point in time difference which will give us a different value on the same phase. This is normal and to be expected .
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@alexruffell I would recommend that the transformers be as close to equal as possible.
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@descipher I measured the output of the two transformers while connected to the system:
9V transformer outputs 14.5Vac
12V transformer outputs 15.5Vac
Given there is only 1Vac difference, is that good enough to be left as is? I reviewed the space I have and fitting two of these transformers is not going to work so I'd have to find replacements (which I am struggling to do - mouser seems to only have this brand/model. The small one was recovered from a device).
Edit:
I am puzzled... I am now back using both transformers and tried to tweak the calibration to get L1 and L2 closer. Now L1 in swinging up and down as can be seen below. Also, once again this swing appears to be around 0.5V. When looking at the voltage with the DMM (see pic below), it also swings up and down but less than 100mV. This swing may be due to what @Cougar discussed earlier in this thread (power consumption of the ESP32 when TXing). The other transformer only swings 30mV.
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/260255600-31e3257c-bd20-4163-9aaf-677f670c7742.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.SAnpmYN1yvdwNw25VGuCIA5I92wKymL0WesPjy8qWAk)
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/260255991-6d288c35-506b-4093-aa53-66e1c63df05c.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.OWOGG7OVPz4_ioq-J2VL5BbbKZu2Ful56Tz8dm8JzLw)
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/260256735-173e435f-386c-4a49-afe0-182a25594997.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.40IjTCEYl6Md5YfP6w3ZbaK0MC14E74Ho5Merh7-EEU)
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At 15.46vac into a 20:1 divider will yield an input vrms of 773mv which is outside the ATM90E32 datasheets specified range of 0-750mv. You need to have an input voltage no more than 12vac to keep it from overflowing the ADC input voltage divider network circuit. The scope tells us the 15.46 vrms is very noisy, not sure what that power pack is doing but it's ugly ..
Correction the datasheet specs a 720mv maximum
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You can check how good is the transformer output using just a resistor as a load.
ESP load is anything but stable. To feed ESP and measure stable AC voltage you need big enough transformer and big capacitors at DC side to keep the fluctuation below the error margin.
My 9V and 6W (0.67A) transformers were not good for that and I changed the board DC power to separate DC power supply and use transformers only for AC voltage measurement like I described in #88 (comment)
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@CircuitSetup Did a correction to the voltage and current offsets calcs, the application guide defines reading the full 32bit measurement value, I was reading only the upper 16 bits with read16(). Please feel free to test this.
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I am replacing the larger transformer with an IF-14-20 which outputs 10V ac 1.4A when both secondary windings are connected in parallel. This will require a minor PCB hack as the one I am using has two 6Vac windings connected in series.
The current 12Vac nominal output is pretty much all the time over 15Vac (input max with the 20:1 divider):
I might be able to make the modification tomorrow.
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I installed the IF-14-20 transformer which has a nominal output of 10Vac. My DMM measures around 12.7Vac. This is a histogram over a brief period of time so I expect it to be a wider range due to line fluctuations:
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/260864537-89e00179-1fff-4e7d-b276-5d183c4e49b3.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.Gu86YtQRrFCgOwgZYRFIzYveUq9hL6KfzBLfsKetAFA)
Both L1 tend to still jump up and down and by different amounts but that might just be the load of the ESP along with time delays and the added math. Just a guess. The two L2 look pretty good as they both track my DMM well.
@Cougar - I've been trying to replicate what you did in Grafana to graph the difference but due to the samples not having the same timestamp, I can't get it to calculate a difference. How did you do your graphs?
@descipher I spent some time trying to calibrate the voltage measurements further and I think I can't get it any better:
![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4006944/260865149-8e909ec9-11e7-42a4-b418-a63970fcef53.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.SB8ccRRbRIQv5dwtaYPmaN9o1KonJ_roxstV-R0rccA)
I caught the screenshot at a good moment, it isn't always as close.
Is there any room for improvement, or should I just call it done and observe over a few days? I'd feel better if both L1 looked more like the 2 L2 (tracking each other closely) but other than implementing @Cougar 's hardware mod, I don't know what else to try. The caps I added to assist with load on 3.3V and 5V rails on the ESP do not seem to do much but I guess I should take a second look given all the changes.
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@alexruffell This is an output of 15s samples with only L1 fed into my Power Meter 1 design using a 6vac BLOCK transformer. Calibrations were done for 1% resistors on a 10:1 divider net.
phase_a_voltage_cal: '4470'
phase_c_voltage_cal: '4479'
The variance is +-0.02v between phase a and phase c inputs of the single IC. There will always be some noise. The other design possibillity for voltage sensing is to use a directly coupled AC line voltage divider. I agree that the small time delta between api calls does cause some variation in read values when the data is callback polled over separate spi interfaces.
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@CircuitSetup Did a correction to the voltage and current offsets calcs, the application guide defines reading the full 32bit measurement value, I was reading only the upper 16 bits with read16(). Please feel free to test this.
Oh good, I didn't catch that. Thanks so much for modifying everything! Definitely open a pull request so it gets added to the next dev release.
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@CircuitSetup Did a correction to the voltage and current offsets calcs, the application guide defines reading the full 32bit measurement value, I was reading only the upper 16 bits with read16(). Please feel free to test this.
Oh good, I didn't catch that. Thanks so much for modifying everything! Definitely open a pull request so it gets added to the next dev release.
Thanks. Will do, I would like to do some more testing I see a wierd nuonce sometimes where the voltage is recorded as 0 which which is likely to be real during upstream AC relay load switching but I need to be certain that it is true by setting up parallel sensors synced up in time for data correlation.
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When I first found the issue, I used 2022.6.0
. Unfortunately even docker image from that time is not usable any more. It used obsolete PIO Core which is not working any more. So, it is not possible to easily compile and test this version any more.
The oldest one that I can run is 2022.11.1
. With this version I don't see these changing differences between ICs any more. I have now 3 extension boards (total 8 ICs) connected with the same AC source without DC rectifier on first board.
There are constant offsets between ICs and lines which probably come from resistors and is fine. The standard deviation of any voltage reading difference is around 0.015 V which looks better than datasheet shows. This is how 12h measurements look like even if I reset the ESPHome in every 5 min like before.
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@Cougar thanks for the tests, I think we are on the right track. The code changes I made will continuously process sensor data locally in the background every 200ms with an averaging over 5 samples. When an HA polling request comes in it supplies the collected values via local memory stores vs collecting a polled value directly from the IC. This reduces lag time between polling callbacks and component processing time as the are no waits other than outside factors like network delay etc. I appears to have a positive result so far.
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Your changes are great and some of them makes a lot of sense and code more readable.
However, I'm skeptical regarding averaging readings even if it makes the result more "smooth". It can't remove the offset anyway. Personally I would not use it (or make it optional). Averaging can be done with additional filters in ESPHome by user if needed. This is probably good idea anyway when updating data every min or so to get more meaningful results.
Also, IC already calculates average over 16 cycles which is 320 ms at 50 Hz or 266 ms at 60 Hz. Data collection at 200 ms interval doesn't make sense here.
IMHO, the positive effect should come from better (or more correct) IC initialization, error checking (and faster?) SPI, reading full register, or independent data collection and sending by ESP.
It would be still good to find out the real cause. I'm not sure if it is worth the time and effort if it is good enough already but one thing I haven't re-tested is to use multiple EPSHomes.
One of my initial hypothesis was that the value depends on timing between SPI commands and IC internal processing. This could be a reason of the offset jump on ESPHome that got reboot and this could also be a cause I don't see it on 4 board but one ESP setup.
So, next I plan to split one ESP and 4 board setup to 2 ESP with 2 boards and see does it change anything or not to hopefully eliminate this possibility.
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I concur on not having averaging within the component as I would expect raw data from it, and I would then pick the filter that best fits my needs in ESPHome. Also, the readings seemed more "stable" (ie followed each other more closely) without the additional math. My biggest issue has always been that 1ch randomly gets what seems to be a 0.5V error. At first I thought it was just one of them having the issue but then I noticed the error jumping around between channels. I believe the issue has not been resolved but it is harder to see on the graphs after the averaging was added. I am not 100% certain and unfortunately I have no time to mess with it right now :(
Is there any way to sync up the readings? Simultaneous sampling, or close to it? While this may be overkill in normal use, it would help in troubleshooting. Mains fluctuate a lot and trying to calibrate and validate readings is hard if they are not taken all at the same time.
Edit: Regarding the averaging, if I understand correctly it happens 5x (200ms) faster than the data sent to HA (1 sample / sec) if so, then the averaged 1S/s could be considered a more accurate raw sample? Hope this makes sense...
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Do you think adding the ability to set the SPI clock rate from the external yaml config function has value?
I don't think this would be necessary since you'd want the fastest rate possible. Slowing it down would only produce slightly more less accurate results.
Did some more research on the calibrations when they dialogue this Ub=Uc=Un, Ua=0, Ia=0 you have to have a 0 input level for both the current and the voltage in order to set a valid voltage calibration on Ua. The design of the circuit we use does not allow this so I need to make it optional in the code for any design that could use it.
I honestly forgot about this for the voltage. The only way around it is to power the ESP32 separately on startup. I think it is more applicable to the current channels anyway.
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