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christianbrodbeck avatar christianbrodbeck commented on June 27, 2024 1

Hi @xinyiguan, I contacted Giovanni Di Liberto about what the desired behavior should be if origTrialPosition is missing.

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christianbrodbeck avatar christianbrodbeck commented on June 27, 2024

I haven't heard back yet, can you maybe tell from the data what should happen? Can you do the analysis without origTrialPosition, so that it would be okay to just drop it?

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xinyiguan avatar xinyiguan commented on June 27, 2024

I resolved this by adding the origTrialPosition values myself. Thanks for stepping in!

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christianbrodbeck avatar christianbrodbeck commented on June 27, 2024

Great! @diliberg commented

that variable should not be empty. That is an issue with the dataset. I did that quickly for the workshop, I am afraid, and I forgot to fix it as it was not important.

In brief. Let me give you two examples:

  1. audio-book listening experiment. The trial order was the same for all participants (as the order was important. So, origTrialPosition should be 1:nTrials.
  2. Bach melody listening. The trial order was randomised -> different for different participants. So, when building the CND file, the approach I used was to sort everything according to a particular order (audio 1, audio 2, etc), so that trial 1 corresponded to audio 1 for all participants. origTrialPositionis a variable that allows us to remember in which order that trial was actually played for a given subject. I'll fix that when I have some time, but that should not be a problem (exactly because the order was randomised).

So from the next Eelbrain release there will just be a warning.

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