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nannanli avatar nannanli commented on July 19, 2024 1

On doc site, we added the demo video after the component description https://zowe.github.io/docs-site/latest/. It might be best to add an overview video that incorporates all that Matt describes on the landing page of Zowe.org. Also on the landing page, organize the sections by describing the benefits of Zowe instead of describing the components - more marketing focused style. Something like https://kubernetes.io/ does. My two cents.

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Tbr00ksy avatar Tbr00ksy commented on July 19, 2024 1

@jackjia-ibm yes I think the text changes are good to go. You can embed the youtube video as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX20ZMRoTtk&t=

The other video we were going to update can be published at a later time.

Also, on the download page (https://zowe.org/download/) feel free to use the same text as on the homepage.

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rpenny125 avatar rpenny125 commented on July 19, 2024

Comment from IBM-main below, but I interpret the main problem is that there is poor "progressive disclosure" on zowe.org.


A colleague asked me, "WTF really is Zowe?" and the only answer I had was that I thought it was like z/OSMF, only more so (and ISTR that it's even built on top of z/OSMF), and open source.

I've seen https://www.rocketsoftware.com/zowe-open-source-mainframe

but it just says "Zowe good" and "open source framework" and like that, never explains what it actually does.

https://zowe.org/home/ is a bit better, seems to support my contention, but also waves hands about APIs and a command-line interface. That makes it sound like it's (conceptually) sorta z/OSMF + Dovetail + scp.

I guess my point here is that I lose interest before I get very far, because it all sounds like smoke and mirrors and "It's open source, it must be good".

Can someone correct my (presumed) misapprehensions, perhaps provide a product description that includes benefits, not just features?

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Tbr00ksy avatar Tbr00ksy commented on July 19, 2024

During the on-boarding squad call we were brainstorming about the possibility to have expand (drop down) option over the different component description which could point to additional resources like a video, blog or point to the user guide.

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Tbr00ksy avatar Tbr00ksy commented on July 19, 2024

Would it make sense to make this issue part of a bigger epic to transition Zowe.org word press over to GitHub Pages? This would not be a 1.0 deliverable per se, but what do you think? Is that kubernetes site github pages?

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Tbr00ksy avatar Tbr00ksy commented on July 19, 2024

Link to boxnote where homepage refresh is being collaborated on.
https://ibm.box.com/s/0mw4ukq7f714j457rucwy5ncpfzp4bff

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jackjia-ibm avatar jackjia-ibm commented on July 19, 2024

@Tbr00ksy I know we are in middle of updating the video. Do you think we are ok to update the text changes of the website?

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alvin-tan avatar alvin-tan commented on July 19, 2024

@rpenny125 I heard similar feedback about folks struggling to get a quick understanding of Zowe as well and while we have some good documentation on the home page, I think a few mins of intro video would go a long way in helping to address most of the initial questions about what Zowe is all about, what does it offer, etc. Let us know your thoughts on this, we are proposing to move the intro video to the front (currently buried in the Doc section) as one of the ways to remedy the current limitation.

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jackjia-ibm avatar jackjia-ibm commented on July 19, 2024

@Tbr00ksy zowe.org homepage and download page are updated. please verify.

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Tbr00ksy avatar Tbr00ksy commented on July 19, 2024

updates verified and closing issue

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