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What is the use case for a required flag? I have never come across a cli app where a flag was required

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I agree with @codegangsta here, there is no reason a flag should be "required". You should provide sensible defaults for the flag or instead read the value in as a command line argument.

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@sirkon This software is provided for free for yours (and everyone else's) benefit. There is nothing stopping you from contributing to the situation constructively by submitting a PR.

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#155 - Required flags

This MR is about to turn 3 years old. We should organize a party.

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My biggest argument in favor of this feature is that sometimes a command or subcommand may require many inputs. Allowing these inputs to be provided as the values of flags (as opposed to arguments) has a benefit in that no one needs to be aware of or honor a specific order in which they are entered. If one were to use flags in this manner, it follows that one would want the ability to define a flag as required.

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Github needs a way to put an unstar to a project. Lack of --required and further mindless opposition to this option deserves to be downvoted.

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@codegangsta I am going to go against the tide here: if a flag is required, it should be a positional argument. Having required flags in the package promotes this anti-pattern. The suggestion in #85 (comment) covers the use case. Perhaps, some helper functions could be added to cover the required use case, as well as cases where certain flags are required when others are set.

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As for @stevvooe positional arguments: This becomes unfriendly to the user if there are more than a few required parameters. Imaging a cli app that needs to connect to a database, like psql. That would require a bunch of required parameters like username, password, host, port. If these were to be positional arguments, then the user would have to remember what order to append these when running the CLI. Using required params has the added benefit of providing labels for the user. This is more user friendly.

@bwiggs pointed it out, but I wanted to expand on what I said above. psql is a perfect example of great cli design. With no arguments, it does something. username, password, host and port are not required parameters in psql. The only positional parameter is the database and username, which are not required. I can configured my environment or .pgsql such that the correct configuration can be picked up.

There are use cases, such as mutually exclusive parameters. Most of the time, these are just easier to implement directly in the command itself, as there may be a lot of application logic to make that decision and emit the correct error.

My main issue with required options is that we too often see tools like this:

cmd subcmd --path foo

Why should I have to write --path when it could be provided by a positional parameter? One may ask, what about more required parameters? Consider a way to do it with less parameters. I've never enjoyed using a tool with more than 3 required parameters that I enjoyed using. Notice that 3 is well within the bounds of using positional arguments. In tools that require such a ridiculous number of parameters (and they do sometimes), more than half of them tend to be the same on each invocation. At that point, just make a configuration file or pull options from the environment.

Required options just tend to lead to bad CLI design.

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Also looking for this feature.

As for @stevvooe positional arguments: This becomes unfriendly to the user if there are more than a few required parameters. Imaging a cli app that needs to connect to a database, like psql. That would require a bunch of required parameters like username, password, host, port. If these were to be positional arguments, then the user would have to remember what order to append these when running the CLI. Using required params has the added benefit of providing labels for the user. This is more user friendly.

ex:

$ psql localhost postgres postgres 5434
vs
$ psql -h localhost -d postgres -U postgres -p 5434

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FYI for anyone that's only following this GitHub issue - I added this feature to the latest release https://github.com/urfave/cli/releases/tag/v1.21.0

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Most CLI libraries for other languages do support required arguments to ease up burden of CLI development and focusing on real added value ;-)

https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-cli/apidocs/index.html
http://jcommander.org/#Required_and_optional
https://pholser.github.io/jopt-simple/examples.html

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Oh hi 👋 I just noticed the helpwanted tag! I use this packages quite extensively @ work, and just finished a PR (sirupsen/logrus#977) to a package I use in a similar context. So I'd like to help with this!

I'll start from here #155 👍 Via creating a branch off on the most recent commit, rebasing, and working through the review comments 🔧

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Thanks for the quick response. Regarding the request, I cam think of dozens of reasons to define a flag as required. username, url, password, ect ...

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Just like required commands, this may be a better thing to handle in your application logic.

Also, adding a field to the Flag interface will unfortunately break the interface and all existing implementations.

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Thanks for the quick response. Regarding the request, I cam think of dozens of reasons to define a flag as required. username, url, password, ect ...

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We wrote a tool called "motherbrain" (https://github.com/RiotGames/motherbrain) and we have use cases where an environment flag is required. Just because you don't have a case for it, doesn't mean they don't exist. What is the opposition to adding a way to require a flag? If you don't have that use case, simply don't use the feature. We really like this library, but there is no reason not to add features just because you don't need that particular feature.

Like I said in the original message, it would be really nice to have both required flags and required arguments. Every time I add a required global argument, I have to add a significant amount of boiler plate to each and every action function.

Edit: to clarify, we are willing to contribute code, but I was hoping this would be more of a discussion of how you wanted to implement, not "I don't need that feature, so I don't want it in here."

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The (sort-of) Ruby equivalent library for writing command line arguments has a required option for flags https://github.com/erikhuda/thor/wiki/Method-Options

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@slantview thanks for the example. I can see the use case for it now.

Unfortunately the proposed solution adds a method to the Flag interface. This will break other implementations of Flag and we can't do that unless we bump the package up to 2.0.

Maybe a utility function on context that will assert that a flag is set would be a better solution. Essentially it is just checking that a generic flag is not nil:

if c.Generic("flagname") == nil {
  log.Fatalln("flagname is required")
}

Although it is only 3 lines of code so it might not be as valuable to have in the codebase. Maybe useful to have in the readme?

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@slantview fair enough :)

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Most of the CLIs I write have required flags, would be great to have that handled in the package rather than re-implementing it each time.

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I think this applies to things like StringFlag more than Generic. For example, I have 3 files I need to specify for a command. The flags don't seem to get printed for subcommand help, and adding 9 lines to handle it is a bit much. Especially since you need to have a Value in order to get the help to display properly.

Edit: Nevermind about subcommand help, I was just using it wrong :) At the same time, required flags is a useful feature IMO.

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+1 totally agree. Required flags are very useful.

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👍 for this.

I agree with @codegangsta here, there is no reason a flag should be "required". You should provide sensible defaults for the flag or instead read the value in as a command line argument.

I'm developing a load testing cli tool and you need at least provide resource name which is --url flag.

Also, it should blow up the process if the required flag is not set.

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I was looking for this feature and ended up here. Just as @slantview I also have, what I feel, unnecessary boilerplate code to make sure flags / parameters are set. For example database connection strings, user names, passwords and so on.

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I did check comment #85 (comment), and for a StringFlag named "comment" I get :

fmt.Printf("comment : %#v\n", c.Generic("comment"))

#run app
./go run main.go
#result
comment : (*flag.stringValue)(0xc20802a9f0)

Is there any other way to check if flag is set ?
I wouldn't mind forking the code, adding 'required' parameter and using my own for from now onwards,
but we are using glide which depends on cli package and we get some strange glide errors if we use different cli build in our project.

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I'd like to see a required flag that either automatically prints the command help when not present or prompts the user for the value.

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@bwiggs while I concede that this feature has some uses, your example of psql is slightly misleading because there are defaults for all of those flags, i.e. running psql with no args is the same as:

psql -h /var/run/postgresql -d jszwedko -U jszwedko -p 5432 (using my username as an example).

I think, wherever possible, flags with default values are a better approach than required flags, but I can imagine use cases (some of which have been described above) where there are no sensible defaults and the value must be provided by the user.

I'm happy to review any pull request introducing this behavior (see #155 for a possible start).

Thanks!

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+1 to required flags

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I understand that for many, CLI primarily means a tool used by a single developer on the command line.

However, please consider applications that are deployed using other means yet still take "command line" arguments. My use case is an application that hosts a micro-service with HTTP endpoints and connections to databases. I have three required flags:

OPTIONS:
   --port                               REQUIRED <number> port to serve HTTP endpoints
   --redis                              REQUIRED <host:port> of Redis DB
   --mysql                              REQUIRED <user:pass@host:port/dbname> of MySQL DB

Although I appreciate the flip perspective, that perhaps by default such an application ought to use the developer team local environment defaults:

OPTIONS:
   --port                               <number> port to serve HTTP endpoints, default: 80
   --redis                              <host:port> of Redis DB. default: localhost:6379
   --mysql                              <user:pass@host/dbname> of MySQL DB, default: root@localhost:3306/app

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Agreed, #155 attempts to address this, but I haven't had the time to circle back around to finish the remaining issues with it.

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I'd love to see this feature added as there appears to be a pretty clear need. I unfortunately don't have the time lately to contribute it myself, but I'm happy to review PRs (I recommend starting from #155).

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I've started on this over here ~> #819 feel free to drop me a comment if there's anything large that I've missed!

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If anyone is interested in helping with this, come check out my PR here #819. It's ready for review 👀

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@lynncyrin can we re-open this issue for the v2 branch? :)

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@marwan-at-work we'll be bringing v2 up to date "automatically" via merging master into it. Open issues are generally reserved for unique instances of work, that won't happen via other means.

So for instance, there would be a "merge master into v2" issue - but not a "merge feature 1, feature 2, feature 3, ... into v2" set of issues. The idea is that the "merge feature" issues essentially duplicate the "merge master" issue.

So I just updated the V2 release tracker issue (#826) to reflect the fact that nobody is currently working on bringing V2 up to date with master, and that we could use some help with that. If nobody picks it up, I'll work on it after I fix #850.

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