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sponcey avatar sponcey commented on June 6, 2024

I have a couple more thoughts:

– Since the Goofy changes in the Optical Min (9/S) are so minimal, maybe we could limit the instances there to just Goofy Min or Goofy Max, and reserve a Goofy Mid for the 72 and 144 area.

– I like the abbreviation of Goofy to Gfy. Could we shorten to Gmin, Gmid, and Gmax?

– Where does Wonk fit with these names? Would it make more sense to have this as a background/automatic feature (that only gets enabled for the small optical sizes), but generally not given to the user to control as instances? So this would be a more advanced feature, or only available in GUIs where sliders are present?

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arialcrime avatar arialcrime commented on June 6, 2024

I don’t have any objections against using Gmin, Gmid & Gmax for the instances within the variable font as well as the generated standalone instances.
Dropping Gmid for the small optical size makes sense visually, I am curious if having a non-matching amount of instances across optical sizes causes any problems at Google Fonts. Any thoughts, @davelab6?

My current understanding of wonk is that it covers the following things:

  • a “binary” axis that switches expressive shapes for more conventional ones
  • a stylistic alternate that performs the same substitution

Therefore I would advocate towards not providing individual wonk-on/wonk-off styles, but I can understand if you prefer treating them as such.

As a sketch I added styles with a “W” to the spreadsheet for styles with wonk. The spreadsheet now also contains familymap and stylemap columns. Let me know what you think.

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sponcey avatar sponcey commented on June 6, 2024

Let's not include Wonk in the instances, so nix the W for now. And let's include the Gmid values for the OpMin, I think you raise a good point about non-matching instances.

@davelab6 is out for the next few months on leave I believe, so let's continue with what we have as the current plan for instance naming. We can always adjust this down the road once we get some clearer answers.

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sponcey avatar sponcey commented on June 6, 2024

From @davelab6 in email:

"I suggest Goofy would be something that starts at 0 and goes to 100, so its a percentage value, and the 'min' doesn't need a name per-se because it is the default."

So G0, G50, G100?

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