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Is it possible you created the small objects before the image? Or manually moved them down?

Normally, the z-level of objects should be kept when they are locked. The other objects will only be behind the locked object if they were created before it, or if they were manually moved down (using the down-facing arrow on the bottom-left of the frame).
And when an object is locked, it can still be moved up/down in Z, to avoid this sort of problem.

This is at least the behaviour I see on my side: for example I added an image, locked it, then drew above it. When I then select the image, it does pop to the front, but it goes back to its normal layer when I deselect it.

I do however see the problem with moving multiple items. We should fix this

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Le 11/04/2016 11:06, Craig a écrit :

This is at least the behaviour I see on my side: for example I added
an image, locked it, then drew above it. When I then select the image,
it does pop to the front, but it goes back to its normal layer when I
deselect it.

I do however see the problem with moving multiple items. We should fix
this

This is a problem when using OpenBoard with pupils or non aware adults :
every time they miss a little object and click on the locked image,
this image appears as in front and hides anything else.

The activity "move objects over a fixed image" is very common and sould
be easy to perform.

On Inkscape, a locked object is no more selectable and there is a
"unlock all" menu item.

On Openboard, an option "lock with the background" could be useful, but
I don't know if the structure of the background plan allows that.

Regards,

François

I'd like to propose enhancements for a future version of OpenBoard, is
it a good idea to write it on Github interface?

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Ok, thank you for your feedback.

I'd like to propose enhancements for a future version of OpenBoard, is
it a good idea to write it on Github interface?

Sure, please do! You can assign the "Enhancement" label for feature requests

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I think @fbarillon has great insights on a major usability problem common to these types of documents. Some softwares have an edition mode and a presentation mode in order to facilitate this. The edition mode allows to set states such as locked, but the behaviour isn't effective until it is in the presentation mode. This could be an avenue to facilitate the dual use case of editing a document and presenting a document. On the other hand, I've had comments that this whole "mode" story can be confusing at times, so it should be done with precaution (especially when user tend to edit things in the presentation mode and the save option is then disabled...).

I dislike the "unlock all" option because of the one way it represents, having to unlock everything in order to edit them and relock everything again after.

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Le 14/04/2016 06:11, SamuelLongchamps a écrit :

I think @fbarillon https://github.com/fbarillon has great insights
on a major usability problem common to these types of documents. Some
softwares have an edition mode and a presentation mode in order to
facilitate this. The edition mode allows to set states such as locked,
but the behaviour isn't effective until it is in the presentation
mode. This could be an avenue to facilitate the dual use case of
editing a document and presenting a document. On the other hand, I've
had comments that this whole "mode" story can be confusing at times,
so it should be done with precaution (especially when user tend to
edit things in the presentation mode and the save option is then
disabled...).

The difference betwin Edition mode and presentation mode could be
materialised with the arrow and the finger cursors witch could be
visible alternatively :

• the cursor mode could present no restrictions (even if object are locked)
• the finger mode could have restrictions (today this mode allows only
  moving objects)

In the preferences pane, the teacher could choose what is allowed in
finger mode (move, select, edit, group/ungroup, delete, rotate),
depending of the activity and pupils age. It could be possible to choose
what is possible after a single clic and what is possible after a long
clic (ie: the delete fonction).

I dislike the "unlock all" option because of the one way it
represents, having to unlock everything in order to edit them and
relock everything again after.

I agree.

François

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