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msbarry avatar msbarry commented on June 11, 2024

I'm not as familiar with the nuances of the different use-cases here, would appreciate feedback from others with more experience mapping these!

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zstadler avatar zstadler commented on June 11, 2024

The principles I'd like to preserve in the current semantics of the YAML configurations are:

  1. An OSM element is selected if it complies with the include_when and exclude_when definitions. When applied to relations of any kind, it means that only the tags of the relation are taken into account.
  2. The geometry is created by descending from the selected element down to the nodes level. In the case of linestring geometries of relations, the geometry is obtained by descending trough other super-/relations and ways down to the relevant nodes.
  3. The tags are taken from the selected element

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msbarry avatar msbarry commented on June 11, 2024

Conceptually this makes sense. I'm wondering if we need additional flexibility to access and/or filter the ways that get included in the final shape by:

  • tags on the ways
  • role labels on the relation member elements
  • tags on the relations contained in a super-relation (or superrelation member roles)

And also if there needs to be any built-in way to decide between a relation and superrelation, or if profiles can determine that entirely from the tags on them (for example see appalachian trail

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zstadler avatar zstadler commented on June 11, 2024

To accomplish that, in a general way, we could add the ability to refer to relation member role and tags.
For example, extracting only some of the segments of a route

include_when:
  - network: ncn
geometry: linestring
include_members_when:
  - highway:
    - cycleway
    - path

or for extracting country labels

include_when:
  - admin_level: 2
geometry: point
include_members_when:
  - @role: label

Note: this is not necessarily the best syntax.

When such member-based valued are used as attributes, using some new syntax, the geometry would split the relation into separate MultiLineString features according to the different values.

As for relation members that are relations themselves, I'm inclined to treat them as transparent, and flatten any nested relations. That would make the ways and node members of any relation seem as if they are members of any predecessor super-relation.

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msbarry avatar msbarry commented on June 11, 2024

OK got it, then if a profile wanted to limit the relation type they would just put an extra type filter on include_when?

include_when:
  - admin_level: 2
  - type: boundary

I also wonder if we should make profiles opt-into this behavior? I'm trying to think if doing this by default would cause any issues if you're not expecting it?

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msbarry avatar msbarry commented on June 11, 2024

Also, we'd want to implement this capability in the java layer then have the yaml layer add an easier-to use API for it. I think it would make sense to build this as an extension to multipolygon handling, which currently does this:

pass1

  • nodes: store the lat/lon of each node into nodeLocationDb disk-backed lookup table
  • relations: store a set waysInMultipolygon that contains way IDs that are a member of a multipolygon relation

pass2

  • ways: if a way is in waysInMultipolygon then store its geometry in multipolygonWayGeometries, a disk-backed map from way ID to node IDs
  • relations: for multipolygon relations, get the list of node IDs for each way they contain from multipolygonWayGeometries then lookup the node locations in nodeLocationDb and reassemble the ways into a multipolygon

We want pass 2 relation processing to also be able to fetch node ids and locations for all of the ways it contains. The lookups should also be lazy so they only happen if profile decides the relation is relevant based on its tags.

For super relations we'd also need to be able to descend from the parent relation down to its children, which complicates things... For completeness we'd probably also want to expose super relation membership when processing ways.

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msbarry avatar msbarry commented on June 11, 2024

It we excluded super-relations, I think this could work by expanding waysInMultipolygon to be waysInRelation and either include all way IDs that exist inside a relation, or multipolygons + some filter provided by the profile. Then pass2 relation processing would have access to the geometries of each way it contains. For nodes contained in relations, we already have nodeLocationDb that can be used to look up their location. This just gives access to node and way geometries when processing a relation, but not their tags.

To include superrelations, we need to be able to descend to all children like this and get their geometries. I think this means we'd need to store an extra map of relation -> node/way/relation children since we can't depend on just having the relation info accessible because we're already processing it in pass 2 anymore. We could also limit the extra data we store to only relations contained in a superrelation if we did a third pass over relations, for example:

  • relation pass 1: store set of relations that are a child of another relation
  • relation pass 2: store relation info for every super-relation, and child relation
  • relation pass 3 (after we finish reading OSM file): process all super-relations and their children stored during pass 2

I could try prototyping how much storage it would be for either of those options.

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msbarry avatar msbarry commented on June 11, 2024

For reference the current OSM planet pbf has:

  • 12,042,918 relations
  • 169,478 of them are superrelations
  • they contain 18,781,152 nodes, 115,643,258 ways, and 863,384 relations
  • there are 28,683 unique member roles

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Tristramg avatar Tristramg commented on June 11, 2024

Thank you for examining this need.

Iā€™m not very experienced with planetiler, so Iā€™m trying only to give what I want to achieve, with no consideration how the schema would look like.

I want to build a map of the Parisian subway.

There are super-routes for each line: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3328695#map=17/48.86859/2.31292&layers=T
I need the colour tag for the rendering from the super-route, but I also need tags from the way (e.g. bridge).

So more than how to select the features, I would need some way to merge tags between the relation and the ways (and possibly also the role)

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