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qknight avatar qknight commented on September 25, 2024

probably everyone uses TLS by default i'd imagine. what do you propose?

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fgaz avatar fgaz commented on September 25, 2024

probably everyone uses TLS by default i'd imagine

I don't think so. For example, iRedMail seems to expose an unencrypted (well, until the client does a STARTTLS (and most clients enforce it)) managesieve:

https://docs.iredmail.org/network.ports.html

And so does mailinabox:

https://mailinabox.email/static/architecture.svg

Also every client I tried only supports STARTTLS, but I didn't try many. Do you use one that supports TLS?

Finally, the RFC only mentions STARTTLS (contrary to the SMTP and IMAP ones):

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5804#section-2.2

what do you propose?

Maybe a managesieveEncryptionMethod flag that can be "STARTTLS" or "TLS" (or "none") and defaults to "STARTTLS". Also two separate ports like it's done for IMAP/SMTP are ok, but the RFC does not specify a standard port for managesieve over TLS

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qknight avatar qknight commented on September 25, 2024

with TLS i also meant STARTTLS but now i notice the difference. would you want to create a PR for this?

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fgaz avatar fgaz commented on September 25, 2024

Sure, just assign the issue to me so I don't forget it. I'm rather busy atm, so this will have to wait a bit.

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