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milahu avatar milahu commented on August 30, 2024

Gibst du den Leute auch eine Möglichkeit, ein Feedback auf dein Buch zu geben (E-Mail, Umfrage)?

feedback? ja klar... email, telefon, brief, anonym im darknet, ...

"null feedback" ist übertrieben, also so 2 oder 3 leute haben geschrieben "hmm klingt interessant, aber ich kann damit nix anfangen, und ich wünsch dir viel glück" oder so... also irgendwie überfordert

es ist ja auch so ein "chicken or egg problem" oder eine "catch 22 situation": um so ein kompliziertes thema bearbeiten zu können, braucht man eine effiziente organisation, aber die meisten leute sind im privatleben überhaupt nicht organisiert (weil arbeit hat monopol auf organisation)...

Wann würdest du von keiner Übervölkerung sprechen?

übervölkerung: dazu hab ich diesen chart in mein buch gedruckt:

http://econosystemics.com/?p=9

die georgia guidestones sagen ja (gleich als erstes gebot) "Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature" und da würd ich mich anschließen.

also mit aktuell fast 10.000 millionen haben wir 20 mal zu viel, also ich würde die aktuelle population reduzieren auf 5%. und wenn ich draussen bin, und mir die leute auf der straße ansehe, dann sehe ich auch genug "die weg können"... (ich weiss schon, voll das elitäre gelaber, aber unsere eliten denken genauso)

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milahu avatar milahu commented on August 30, 2024

noch zu übervölkerung: dieses zitat steht auch in meinem buch, und ich fühl das genauso. vor allem das argument: wenn es zu viele menschen gibt, dann müssen wir sparen, weil die rohstoffe sind begrenzt. wenn es weniger menschen gibt, dann haben wir mehr freiheit und mehr rohstoffe

hier ein schlechter youtube clip dazu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2QNnoqc3XU

<div class="para">
What have you done today, to earn your place in this crowded world?
<br>
&mdash; Utopia (US 2020)
</div>
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Utopia | Official Teaser | Prime Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUVNDvfY4Ps
-->
<div class="para">
<!-- Utopia.2020.S01E08.720p.AMZN.WEBRip.x264-GalaxyTV.mkv 00:07:34 -->
CHRISTIE:
I've done so many terrible, terrible things in my life.
Horrible, wicked shit.
MICHAEL:
I can't even fathom who the fuck you are.
A human being with a mind as brilliant as yours... you could do anything,
and instead, you choose to rain down misery and death.
CHRISTIE:
No, you don't have it.
<b>How much evil do you have to do, to do good?</b>
[...]
<!--
Let me give you all a little perspective:
The key figure in a massive global world-changing,
I'll use your word "conspiracy",
a conspiracy that has already taken the lives
of several hundred children this past week alone,
is sitting in your living room,
and you're all standing around, listening to me talk,
instead of running away from me as fast as you can.
That tells me you're not gonna last.
Not to the end. Not even Jessica Hyde.
Do you know why?
-->
People think humans are driven by the search for happiness, meaning.
That's not true.
People are driven by the need to know what happens next.
<b>Do you want to know what happens next?</b>
<!--
Your father created a world-changing,
not world-ending,
a world-changing, world-improving omnivirus.
And we have taken that virus
and embedded it in the vaccine of the Stearns Flu.
WILSON:
I knew it.
I knew it.
IAN:
You created a panic,
and now everybody's begging for the vaccine.
WILSON:
No, no, no. They're demanding it,
with all the entitlement of a first-world country.
CHRISTIE:
Yes. And now we have exactly what we want.
Hundreds of millions of Americans lining up,
offering us their arms
and letting us give them our creation.
IAN:
I'm pretty sure when every
vaccinated person starts dying,
they'll trace it back to you,
undetectable virus or not.
CHRISTIE:
You've all been very busy,
and you're all very sharp.
Are you sure none of you would
like to come and work for me?
No? Better than dying
a terrible, violent death.
Then understand this.
What we are doing is
far bigger than death.
MICHAEL:
Wait. This virus is not deadly?
ALICE:
It looks pretty damn deadly.
CHRISTIE:
Tell me this.
-->
[...]
<b>What have you done today, to earn your place in this crowded world?
Exactly. [you have done nothing]
Everything I do is a cure for our current situation. [overpopulation]</b>
WILSON:
Wait, how is it a cure if...
IAN:
...you're killing people!
CHRISTIE:
I told you, it does not kill.
That was the amazing epiphany we had.
We didn't have to kill to accomplish our goal.
JESSICA:
Which is what?!
CHRISTIE:
We intend to stop human reproduction for three generations.
<b>The busy, endless, global assembly line of babies...
will grind to a halt.</b>
WILSON:
You're sterilizing people?
CHRISTIE:
Yes. In the first five years,
we'll start to see major birth rate declines,
as teenagers vaccinated today hit their childbearing years.
IAN:
You're controlling the future of human <b>civilization</b>?
CHRISTIE:
Is that what they're calling it?
It's a very nice euphemism for a species
that has replicated like a contagion across the planet,
<b>killing all other species</b> in its wake.
Except things that are cute, like puppies or koalas...
WILSON:
...pandas.
CHRISTIE:
Never in history has there been a creature
begging for extinction more than the fucking panda...
except us.
ALICE:
You hate people that much?
CHRISTIE:
On the contrary, I love people.
IAN:
Then how...? Why would you...?
CHRISTIE:
<b>Doing what our government, our citizenry
is too spoiled or self-indulgent to do.
We are saving ourselves from ourselves.</b>
WILSON:
Halting overpopulation.
CHRISTIE:
A hundred years ago, the global population was 1.7 billion.
In 2011, it reached...
WILSON:
Seven billion.
CHRISTIE:
<b>People live too long, die less often,
fuck too much, shit out babies like...</b>
MICHAEL:
In 2050, they say it's gonna plateau.
WILSON:
No, no, we'll blow past 11 billion
and then slowly begin to... decline.
CHRISTIE:
But by then, it'll be too late to save an Earth
that bears any resemblance to a world we actually want to live in.
This planet... I love this planet,
so I decided to take care of the problem.
BECKY:
By injecting your virus into the veins of every human on it?
CHRISTIE:
<b>Global warming, mass extinctions, food, water shortages...
All these problems can be boiled down to one thing: overpopulation.</b>
MICHAEL:
It's not as simple as that.
CHRISTIE:
But it is.
<b>At 1.7 billion, we can be as decadent, self-indulgent, and shitty as we want.</b>
At ten billion, we have to live strategically,
we have to live modestly, we have to live selflessly...
and as you know, we're not that good at it.
WILSON:
And you're beta-testing it on Americans, since we're the worst.
CHRISTIE:
If we don't do something now, right now,
[then] in a decade, our world will experience extraordinary privations.
The war of all against all.
WILSON:
Water. We'll go to war over water,
and the people who will die first
are the ones without power and money.
CHRISTIE:
And by then, we'll be fighting over a world
that really isn't worth fighting for.
ALICE:
But you can't just decide, people won't have babies because...
CHRISTIE:
I can and I did. Think of me as the stern parent
who tells the children they can't play with <b>the family gun</b> [human reproduction].
IAN:
What about what this does to... to people, to society?
CHRISTIE:
<b>Salvation. We can form a new society.</b>
<br>
<!--
JESSICA:
Home.
CHRISTIE:
Yes. The grand social experiment.
JESSICA:
So why do you want to kill me?
CHRISTIE:
I don't want to kill you.
I don't want to kill anybody.
I want you back.
GRANT:
She's one of us.
CHRISTIE:
That's very cute of you to say,
and you're a very good friend.
But she belongs to me.
Your father created you... for me.
JESSICA:
What is this?
CHRISTIE:
Oh, the inoculation scar.
A gift from your father.
JESSICA:
No, he was protecting me.
From you, your virus.
CHRISTIE:
Not protecting, testing, on you.
You won't be having any children.
JESSICA:
No, my dad loved me.
CHRISTIE:
My dear, he didn't care about you, at all.
He didn't give a fuck about you.
JESSICA:
My dad loved me.
CHRISTIE:
By keeping you locked in a cage?
JESSICA:
I was in my Yellow House.
CHRISTIE:
Cage, house... that's semantics.
He kept you locked in a fucking dog kennel,
until it was time for you to take your vapor,
so he could do his work.
Jessica, this should be underlined in blood:
You belong to me.
<br>
-->
&mdash; Utopia S01E08 (US 2020)
[übervölkerung]
<!--
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2QNnoqc3XU
-->
</div>

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milahu avatar milahu commented on August 30, 2024

also nein?

Genau.

ok : )

ich wünsch dir viel erfolg mit deinem idealismus...

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