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TimothyMothra avatar TimothyMothra commented on May 17, 2024 2

@tsahi Thanks for the information. How often do you re-deploy Application Insights to your few servers?

The former Status Monitor would instrument individual applications by dropping DLLs into the bin directory. This required a re-install every time you re-deploy your original application.

The newer IIS Configurator will install once on your server to instrument IIS. Your applications will light up even after re-deploying. I hope that this newer version would create less maintenance for you overall. :)

Your feedback here is super valuable. Thank you!

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bogdangrigg avatar bogdangrigg commented on May 17, 2024 1

This sounds potentially very useful - when would GA be planned?
Also, are you targeting feature parity with the embedded SDK option?

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jawn avatar jawn commented on May 17, 2024 1

We expect our first Stable release sometime in May 2019.

From https://github.com/Microsoft/ApplicationInsights-Home/blob/master/Samples/IISConfigurator/TOC.md

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TimothyMothra avatar TimothyMothra commented on May 17, 2024 1

@jawn Yes, we will remove that disclaimer with our first stable release.
Part of our requirements for a stable release is a security review.

We are confident that the code is safe because this code base is shared with some Azure Extensions that are already live in production. This difference here is because of the on-prem scenario and we can't control the security of the installation folder. The next best thing is to review that we're not exposing you to harm.

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TimothyMothra avatar TimothyMothra commented on May 17, 2024 1

@tsahi. Thanks for sharing, that's perfect.
In the background, StatusMonitor was installing an extension called Instrumentation Engine.
In the v0.2 update, we're introducing an api to install only that Instrumentation Engine and nothing else. This standalone installation wasn't available in Status Monitor.

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tsahi avatar tsahi commented on May 17, 2024

Why PowerShell? Would there be a GUI for this?

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TimothyMothra avatar TimothyMothra commented on May 17, 2024

@tsahi We don't currently have plans for a new GUI but we will listen to customer's needs. If there's a specific feature of the GUI that you depend on, please share your use case so we can take that into consideration. :) Right now our focus is delivering a fully functional PowerShell API. This will address the automation needs of our largest enterprise customers.

@bogdangrigg Sometime in May 2019. :) This product uses the .NET SDK so you would receive the features and bug/performance fixes of this SDK.

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jmoore4xrx avatar jmoore4xrx commented on May 17, 2024

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TimothyMothra avatar TimothyMothra commented on May 17, 2024

@jmoore4xrx I will continue to make announcements on this repo.

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tsahi avatar tsahi commented on May 17, 2024

@MS-TimothyMothra we have only a few servers we maintain, so we don't use automation for deployment of App Insights. In this scenario, it's easier to use a GUI than memorize console commands.

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jawn avatar jawn commented on May 17, 2024

The newer IIS Configurator will install once on your server to instrument IIS. Your applications will light up even after re-deploying. I hope that this newer version would create less maintenance for you overall.

Thanks, that's a super improvement to support CI/CD scenarios without headaches 👍.

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jawn avatar jawn commented on May 17, 2024

Question: the docs say

This is a prototype application. We do not recommend using this on your production environments.

Will that disclaimer be removed once it is stable?

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tsahi avatar tsahi commented on May 17, 2024

@MS-TimothyMothra that's not the experience we've had. We installed Status Monitor once, enabled it for the applications we needed on the machine, and it just works. We integrated the App Insights SDK into our application, and write logs from our code. We added status monitor because of this page (or a similar one), to get the extra data the SDK doesn't provide. I think the note above the table didn't exist at the time. We do get detailed dependency information though.

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