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danielburnley avatar danielburnley commented on May 18, 2024 2

I think context would be good - I have issues with these values that I think could be discussed in a better forum, but the primary one is that just reading these in a vacuum would make me think "Yikes this is a company where they want me to overwork and have a bad work life balance" (in particular "Client first", "Drive to deliver", and "Above and beyond").

I think if we're going to put the values into the handbook we need to ensure they do fully reflect what our values are as a company - as well as provides some good concrete examples which removes the fear of "Oh Above and beyond, that means they want us to work 12hour days". Whereas as a person who has worked here long enough I know our values are more nuanced than that.

(This comes from the mind set of someone who is very vigilant of their work-life balance and so might be a bit more of an exaggerated reaction to reading these than most. I'm also not 100% sure that this is the right place to air this concern so am willing to move this comment elsewhere if it's more appropriate there)

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yaseminercan avatar yaseminercan commented on May 18, 2024 1

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davidwinter avatar davidwinter commented on May 18, 2024

I think it's important to have them in the handbook. Why can't we just add a bit of context for each in the handbook so it's easy for people to understand them?

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kjdchapman avatar kjdchapman commented on May 18, 2024

+1 to having them in the handbook.

These would be useful for me with enough context. I'd suggest adding context with two key angles:

  • weighing them up against things we value less
  • telling stories about applying them

So for example:

Drive to deliver
We value meeting delivery commitments over seeking the 'perfect' solution.

That means when building a feature, we'll accept that it might not be the best version, and focus on getting it done and into production before iterating.


As a separate discussion, I am not sure these are our values / this is the right list.

(I'm not sure if an RFC is the right forum for either discussion.)

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lukemorton avatar lukemorton commented on May 18, 2024

Latest updates address this issue: #338 and #339.

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