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euzada avatar euzada commented on June 8, 2024 1

I was going to suggested this idea as I used Tiff with JPEG all the time. I just was doing some testing and still found JXL format slower than libjpeg-turbo in writing. Another limitation I am seeing, is that even if jxl claimed to be larger than jpeg, I can't write an image larger than 10kx10k pixel successfully, while in jpeg, I can write 65kx65k with no issue. The file size will be huge but I can do it. In JXL, The writing above 10k, will finish by crashing and saying jxlsave not found. It can't handle larger files.
Does anyone else notice the same?

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AngelaDMerkel avatar AngelaDMerkel commented on June 8, 2024 1

Does anyone else notice the same?

It depends on which version of cjxl jxlsave is using. The JXL team recent changed the encoder and significantly improved memory performance. I have found that the encoder is extremely memory hungry and often crashes if your system isn't capable. I have never tried to compress a gigapixel image though.

That said, JXL has a lossless mode which is where I see myself using this feature. I have a lot TIFF containers with special metadata or layers and being able to losslessly compress in 32/16bit is something JPEG cannot do. JXL is also better for some kinds of scientific data as it can contain far more channels including non-visible and (obviously) alpha.

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jcupitt avatar jcupitt commented on June 8, 2024 1

There's a TIFF tag for JXL compression:

$ grep -i jxl *.h
tiff.h:#define COMPRESSION_JXL 50002              /* JPEGXL: WARNING not registered in Adobe-maintained registry */

So I suppose we'd just need to compress each tile with libjxl, rather like jp2k.

You can see the compression enum here:

https://github.com/libvips/libvips/blob/master/libvips/foreign/vips2tiff.c#L294-L299

So we'd need to add COMPRESSION_JXL and then fill out the various switches. We'd need to add a tile saver to jxlsave.c too. Here's the jp2k one:

https://github.com/libvips/libvips/blob/master/libvips/foreign/jp2ksave.c#L1191-L1420

So perhaps another 300 lines there. I'd guess 2 or 3 day's work, plus the same for jxlload, so perhaps a week's effort, all told.

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