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joedolson avatar joedolson commented on August 27, 2024 2

I took a start at researching it, but it's a complicated topic, and I haven't been able to find the time to really build out the research sufficiently to be very useful. I feel like the research needs to be fairly solid for this to be an argument worth sharing.

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GarethFWAb11y avatar GarethFWAb11y commented on August 27, 2024 1

That needs to be an article.
If you can put some numbers behind it there would be a great case for flagging to the Sustainability community.

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karlgroves avatar karlgroves commented on August 27, 2024

Would this warrant its own section on the fact sheet?

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stringyland avatar stringyland commented on August 27, 2024

I wonder if it might be worth including as part of performance and/or data problems? More to download equals slower performance, higher data charges for many, and increases the energy cost.

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joedolson avatar joedolson commented on August 27, 2024

Agreed; it's an overall part of performance. Noting that the higher data charges & impact on devices can be an issue for areas of low connectivity and internet service, as well, e.g. rural networks.

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karlgroves avatar karlgroves commented on August 27, 2024

@joedolson Can you take a stab at writing something up for this?

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DagA11y avatar DagA11y commented on August 27, 2024

We could maybe build a simple proof of concept site and check it against https://www.websitecarbon.com/
Then we could have subdomains for it with different overlays (same site but with overlay(s)) and then measure it again against https://www.websitecarbon.com/ and get the facts...

It would be quite adequate I guess. We would just have to buy the darn thing(s)...

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joedolson avatar joedolson commented on August 27, 2024

Yes, that occurred to me, too. But actually having to set up accounts and acquire all of these tools is a distasteful and expensive proposition...

I think we'd also want to run some performance tests on the client side, to see the impact of overlays on processor use, etc.

That is something that would give us some fairly solid data without needing to do all the research on the broader environmental implications of poor performance, since we'd have some direct correlations. Maybe we should do a cost estimate and see if some organization might sponsor it.

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