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TWerkman avatar TWerkman commented on August 10, 2024 2

ok it´s just a workaround by disabling the monitoring of the process-activity of the pst-backup.exe, but maybe someone has a better idea later...

  1. Open Kaspersky Settings
  2. Open Protection
  3. Open Programcontrol
  4. Open Manage Programs
  5. rightklick and select add program to group
  6. select the backupexecutor.exe (C:\Program Files (x86)\CodePlex\outlookbackupaddin\BackupExecutor.exe)
  7. search the backup executor entry, right click it and select details and rules
  8. navigate to exceptions
  9. tick do not monitor programactivity
  10. save and close

---- As you see it´s just a workaround by disabling some security settings, so keep that in mind. Also have in mind that this manual is valid for the kaspersky-internet-security-suite. some steps in total security could be different. as i have the german version of kaspersky there might be translation differences to the steps i´ve written, so sorry for that! maybe someone with a better english might help here

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TWerkman avatar TWerkman commented on August 10, 2024

Ergänzende Info:
PST wurde auch schon in mehrere PSTs aufgesplittet um Probleme mit der Dateigröße auszuschliessen. Dies führte leider nicht zum gewünschten Erfolg :(

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Fran978 avatar Fran978 commented on August 10, 2024

Same problem here, pst is 1.7Gb on ntfs, trying to copy on a network share Z:
Worked fine since a week ago, I bet it's a windows 10 update that screwd up things

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TWerkman avatar TWerkman commented on August 10, 2024

Update could be a good clue...
Last pst-backup i remember was on 13.12.2019...
On the same day 2 updates were installed (KB4533002) and (KB4530684).
I´ll try to uninstall these two, so i can find out, if one is to blame for this issue

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TWerkman avatar TWerkman commented on August 10, 2024

Update could be a good clue...
Last pst-backup i remember was on 13.12.2019...
On the same day 2 updates were installed (KB4533002) and (KB4530684).
I´ll try to uninstall these two, so i can find out, if one is to blame for this issue

Okay... this didn´t work :(

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Fran978 avatar Fran978 commented on August 10, 2024

Tom?

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tinzDROID avatar tinzDROID commented on August 10, 2024

Also have this issue when copying to a CIFS share with NTFS. Local drive destinations are fine.

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HoffmannTom avatar HoffmannTom commented on August 10, 2024

Hello,
could you add some information about the target system?
Is it another Win10 computer or is it a NAS?
Which OS is running on the target machine?

Greetings, Thomas

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Fran978 avatar Fran978 commented on August 10, 2024

My target is a nas share, mapped to drive z:
The nas is a Synology, brtfs filesystem on raid10 conf.
Origin is win10 x64
Last backup is on 18/12/2019

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tinzDROID avatar tinzDROID commented on August 10, 2024

My target is a Synology NAS with ext4 volumes shared over CIFS (SAMBA), there is 2.4tb available space on the NAS.
The source is a Windows 10 PC with NTFS.
I have tried with a mapped device and UNC (Previously while the backup was working, UNC was used)
I am able to manually copy the files over from the command line and from Explorer.
The PST files are between 800mb - 3.5gb.

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HoffmannTom avatar HoffmannTom commented on August 10, 2024

Hello,
it seems the problem narrows down to the combination with a Synology NAS.
I tried with Win10 as a target PC via network without any problems.
Can you provide the English error message of the line ... Failed to copy file: ?

I will try to search online if there are any compatibility issues with the NAS.
As a workaround you could use the Post-Backup-cmd and run a little bat-file to copy the pst to the NAS.

Greetings, Thomas

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HoffmannTom avatar HoffmannTom commented on August 10, 2024

Could you try to enable SMB 3 as described at:
https://community.synology.com/enu/forum/7/post/120393 ?

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TWerkman avatar TWerkman commented on August 10, 2024

Situation here:
Fileserver 2008R2 (we´re migrating this month...really!) with following disk/drives:
C:\ - RAID1 on Fileserver
E:\ - RAID5 on Fileserver (contains the share with the pst-backup-files)
F:\ - RAID5 attached via iSCSI (Synology-NAS) (not containing the share with the pst-backup-files)

On the W10-Client i checked the smb-dialect (powershell: get-smbconnection) and saw that the connection to the server for the pst-backup uses smb-dialect 2.1.

Fortunatly we got another server (Server 2016) with shares using smb 3.1.1... I´ll try to set this server as target for the backuptool.

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TWerkman avatar TWerkman commented on August 10, 2024

Situation here:
Fileserver 2008R2 (we´re migrating this month...really!) with following disk/drives:
C:\ - RAID1 on Fileserver
E:\ - RAID5 on Fileserver (contains the share with the pst-backup-files)
F:\ - RAID5 attached via iSCSI (Synology-NAS) (not containing the share with the pst-backup-files)

On the W10-Client i checked the smb-dialect (powershell: get-smbconnection) and saw that the connection to the server for the pst-backup uses smb-dialect 2.1.

Fortunatly we got another server (Server 2016) with shares using smb 3.1.1... I´ll try to set this server as target for the backuptool.

Nope, the second time i tried to backup the pst-file to the server (the one with smb3.1.1) gives the same error message as in the first comment :(.
it´s weird because i can backup the pst-file if the backupfolder is empty... if i try to overwrite the backupfile it doesnt work...

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HoffmannTom avatar HoffmannTom commented on August 10, 2024

Hello,
I also tried with Win2008R2. Using a normal network share worked, even with overwriting.
Can anyone send the english error message which is shown in the log output?
Greetings, Thomas

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HoffmannTom avatar HoffmannTom commented on August 10, 2024

Can somebody try to monitor the copy process with Procmon: with https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/procmon ?
Maybe this shows some permission issues or other hints.

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TWerkman avatar TWerkman commented on August 10, 2024

I never used procmon, so i hope this was the correct way to do so...
I set a filter (processname = backupexecutor.exe) cleared the results started outlook and closed it again to initiate the backup-process... procmon showed a bunch of entries... i could upload this enormous file i you want to... otherwise after looking through these entries i saw this event (maybe it helps?):

1770 11:20:58,9825554 BackupExecutor.exe 63556 CreateFile \\fiw-fs2\PST-Backup\Twerkman\Werkman.pst INVALID DEVICE REQUEST Desired Access: Generic Read/Write, Delete, Write DAC, Disposition: OverwriteIf, Options: Sequential Access, Non-Directory File, Attributes: ANCI, ShareMode: None, AllocationSize: 1.010.361.344

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Fran978 avatar Fran978 commented on August 10, 2024

Logfile.zip

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HoffmannTom avatar HoffmannTom commented on August 10, 2024

@Fran978: the logfile contains the same error message as TWerkman:
INVALID DEVICE REQUEST
It seems that some protocol functions are not supported by the target. Maybe an SMB protocol issue.

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TWerkman avatar TWerkman commented on August 10, 2024

so we can assume that there is no "invalid device message" in a working "pst-backup-scenario"-logfile?
can you confirm this?

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TWerkman avatar TWerkman commented on August 10, 2024

I wiresharked the backup-process and got this message of an unknown ioctl request...
Maybe someone with more wireshark experience is here and knows the meaning of this.
Unbenannt

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TWerkman avatar TWerkman commented on August 10, 2024

Here a snippet with some more information to the ioctl-request... says also unknown device...

grafik

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HoffmannTom avatar HoffmannTom commented on August 10, 2024

Hello,
within a working backup there is no message like "INVALID DEVICE REQUEST":
image

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HoffmannTom avatar HoffmannTom commented on August 10, 2024

Hello,
could you try to (temporary) disable and AV software on client + server?
Is there any relevant message in the event log on server or client side which is related to this message?
Up to now I couldn't reproduce the error. Neither with Win10 nor with Win2008R2 on server side.
Greetings, Thomas

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TWerkman avatar TWerkman commented on August 10, 2024

Heya,

i‘ll try it on monday. i think it could be interesting which av software is used by the other users.
We use kaspersky internet security and kaspersky total security on the w10 clients and server runs with sophos antivirus. another question... do the other persons use dfs on their fileserver?

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HoffmannTom avatar HoffmannTom commented on August 10, 2024

Hello,
we use GData AV on server and client side.
I will be back in February. I hope you can narrow down under which circumstances the problem
shows up.
Greetings, Thomas

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tinzDROID avatar tinzDROID commented on August 10, 2024

Heya,

i‘ll try it on monday. i think it could be interesting which av software is used by the other users.
We use kaspersky internet security and kaspersky total security on the w10 clients and server runs with sophos antivirus. another question... do the other persons use dfs on their fileserver?

We're using Kaspersky KTS on the clients and Synology's Antivirus tool which I believe uses the ClamAV engine. No dfs.

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TWerkman avatar TWerkman commented on August 10, 2024

Great news!

It seems to be, that kaspersky is the problem for us...
I accidental discovered this as i was solving some issues with the client firewall and a the hyper-v manager (but this is another story)...
anyways, with kaspersky are three modes:

  • protection running
  • protection stopped
  • closed

as the protection runs, it´s not possible to rewrite the pst-file. same issue when protection is stopped (but kaspersky still running as process)
only if kaspersky-process is killed it´s possible to re-do the pst-backup!

maybe i´ll find a solution to make this work with kaspersky again.

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tinzDROID avatar tinzDROID commented on August 10, 2024

I've tried TWerkman's workaround and it's working for me, using Total Security, only slight difference from above:

  1. Open Kaspersky Settings
  2. Open Protection
  3. Open Application Control
  4. Open Manage Applications
  5. Search for the BackupExecutor application in the list (in mine it was under Low Restricted> Codeplex) but find us using the search box.
  6. Right click and select Details And Rules
  7. Click on the Exclusions tab
  8. Tick do not monitor Application Activity
  9. Save

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Fran978 avatar Fran978 commented on August 10, 2024

I can confirm it works thanks to TWerkman

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MichaelC1806 avatar MichaelC1806 commented on August 10, 2024

Auch ich kann bestätigen, dass es Dank der Hilfe und Vorgehensweise von @TWerkman reibungslos funktioniert. Vielen Dank! 👍

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HoffmannTom avatar HoffmannTom commented on August 10, 2024

I added this information to the wiki page to keep this information permanently:
https://github.com/HoffmannTom/outlookbackupaddin/wiki
Thanks for your input and participation to solve this issue.

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