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toribonidie avatar toribonidie commented on August 24, 2024 1

Hi René!

Thank you so much for getting back to me and clarifying. I think adding that to the documentation might be useful in the future since I know of other people using this algorithm to look for planets around hot subdwarfs and m dwarfs, which would both have very different Roche radii.

And yes, for my case, since the Roche radius is inside the star, I am just setting the minimum semi major axis to be $a = R_{star}$, so my period grid now spans from 6-32 days.

Thank you again!

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hippke avatar hippke commented on August 24, 2024

Hi @toribonidie, thank you for your question. This seems less like a code question, assuming the code replicates the paper correctly. Instead, I believe your question is better answered with physical reasoning. I'm a little tight on time at the moment, but I'll try to ping my co-author René for an answer.

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toribonidie avatar toribonidie commented on August 24, 2024

Hi @hippke ! Thank you for getting back to me. Please take your time to respond. I am able to override the default period grid that TLS provides while performing my searches, but I just wanted to make sure I'm interpreting this correctly so that I am not searching for periods that are physically impossible.

So, no rush! But I look forward to hearing back from you or René for clarification.

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reneheller avatar reneheller commented on August 24, 2024

Hello @toribonidie! Your calculations look alright to me. Our formulae have been adopted from Ofir (2014), see his Sect. 3.1 therein for a few more details. In brief, yes, fmax is derived from Kepler's 3rd Law as you illustrate. The factor of 3 Rs comes from the division of the stellar density by the planetary density and then taking the third root. For a fluid-like Sun-like star and very low-density planet, we have 2.44 × (ρs/ρp)1/3 ~ 2.44 × (1.4 g cm-3 / 1 g cm-3)1/3 ~ 2.44 × 1.12 ~ 2.73 ~ 3.

I checked our paper and you're right, we should have explicitly mentioned that we assumed a solar-type star. In fact, for low-mass stars the density is higher than for solar-type stars and the Roche limit can move out to ~ 10 Rs. Michael (@hippke), maybe this is something that we should note in the TLS documentation for users to be aware that it might make sense to adjust the Roche limit and therefore fmax?

Tori, for your particular case of an extremely low-density star you end up with a Roche radius inside the star, did you notice? a3 between 0.004 Rs3 and 0.03 Rs3 is equivalent to a between 0.16 Rs and 0.3 Rs. I would expect any planet at that "distance" to the star to lose angular momentum and fall into the stellar core within < 1 million years. What do you think?

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