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IAmRiteshKoushik avatar IAmRiteshKoushik commented on June 10, 2024 9

Yeah, we need to move this repository under the SvelteOrg GitHub, and that would fix the branding issue that SvelteNative suffers from. A cross-platform alternative to React Native that can go head to head with Flutter would be really helpful. Let's talk about this the Svelte discord ?

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IAmRiteshKoushik avatar IAmRiteshKoushik commented on June 10, 2024 7

See! That is the exact problem! There is almost no visibility beyond the official discord community of Svelte! SvelteNative is not getting the love is deserves as people are unaware of this tech. It can very well become mainstream with improvements to the website, moving this repo to Svelte.org and adding in more features ?

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jamestinman avatar jamestinman commented on June 10, 2024 7

This really needs to happen as there is definitely a knock-on affect to Svelte adoption. A couple of CTO/tech leads I have spoken to recently say they won't consider svelte until there is an official accompanying "SvelteNative" so they can use the same skillset across devices - which means they feel compelled to stick to React / ReactNative.

Go to Svelte site and feels like an after thought, which is why - even if technically plausible rn - people are not feeling confident about adopting it in production. This is not about Rich Harris and the Svelte team jumping headlong into the codebase, just acknowledging and embracing SvelteNative more formally.

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matthewblott avatar matthewblott commented on June 10, 2024 6

There was this post on Reddit a few week's ago titled 'What are the biggest issues with Svelte?' This was my reply:

No official support for Svelte Native. It has some rough edges but could be a genuine rival to React Native because it is so much easier to use and be productive. Whenever I've mentioned this in the past I get the usual nods to Capacitor which is great for what it does but it isn't the same. It's also unlikely to compete with React Native in the way Svelte Native could.

I didn't get any response but I did post it a bit later. When it comes to mobile, a lot of clients won't touch anything if they hear it's powered by a 'web' front end (no matter how fair or unfair that might be). Svelte Native has great potential here but it needs promoting.

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jonny827 avatar jonny827 commented on June 10, 2024 6

I found this by wondering myself if there was a way to use Svelte for Native Apps and Google brought me to the website and this repository as the first two links. I definitely think it would be much easier to manage all from one organization and even possibly from one site versus two sites. People browsing the Svelte site would love to know of growing ecosystem. Additionally, placing the repository under the main Svelte org on Github would definitely bring more attention, and a sense of longevity in the project bringing more developers to contribute to the project and bring it into more mainstream use in more production environments.

@Rich-Harris @benmccann @sveltejs we all would appreciate your thoughts and input on this issue.

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ralyodio avatar ralyodio commented on June 10, 2024 5

It was dead.

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ralyodio avatar ralyodio commented on June 10, 2024 3

the official svelte discord. i interview at one of the jobs posted there and said it was a sweatshop. they banned me. i re-joined under a different account and they banned me right away so fuck 'em.

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IAmRiteshKoushik avatar IAmRiteshKoushik commented on June 10, 2024 2

Check the #nativedev channel in Discord

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ralyodio avatar ralyodio commented on June 10, 2024

haha. the reddit conversation degraded into a conversation about slots. i got banned from the discord, so I'm stuck with just reddit and irc (all 5 of us)

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vallemar avatar vallemar commented on June 10, 2024

@ralyodio in which discord?

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vallemar avatar vallemar commented on June 10, 2024

@ralyodio use NativeScript discord for SvelteNative

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matthewblott avatar matthewblott commented on June 10, 2024

@IAmRiteshKoushik which channel?

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maietta avatar maietta commented on June 10, 2024

I found this on the Svelte Discord server, otherwise I would have never heard of it. Thank you for the work that's gone into this!

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matthewblott avatar matthewblott commented on June 10, 2024

Just adding some info about Svelte Native at the bottom is insufficient in the current state. That FAQ page doesn't really look like an FAQ page. It's very disorganised and should be terser with links to explanations imo.

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