Vællahit ( about lang-smj HOT 12 CLOSED

Comment 1377

Date: 2007-05-15 13:27:45 +0200
From: Inga Lill Sigga Mikkelsen <<inga.l.mikkelsen>>

Lookup does not recognise vællahit, but for vellahit it gives analyses for vællahit.

vellahit
vellahit vællahit+V+IV+Inf
vellahit vællahit+V+IV+Imprt+Pl8
vellahit vellahit+V+IV+Inf
vellahit vellahit+V+IV+Imprt+Pl8

vællahit
vællahit vællahit +?

Both forms are in verbfile:

vellahit:vellah9 BALÁDIT ;
vællahit:vællah9 BALÁDIT ;

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Comment 1379

Date: 2007-05-15 21:56:51 +0200
From: Trond Trosterud <<trond.trosterud>>

This one is related to 395. I still have broblems seing what we want. We have both vellahit and vællahit, thus we want both, and we want them to have unchanged vowels throughout, is that so? (always e in vellahit, always æ in vællahit). If this is the case, we must a. investigate the twol rule which gives æ:e, and b. the lexc context which triggers the rule in question.

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Comment 1381

Date: 2007-05-16 08:04:25 +0200
From: Thomas Omma <<thomas.omma>>

yes, there shall be no vowel change in these words

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Comment 1456

Date: 2007-06-07 15:16:58 +0200
From: Sjur Nørstebø Moshagen <<sjur.n.moshagen>>

Is this one still open?

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Comment 1459

Date: 2007-06-07 19:02:51 +0200
From: Trond Trosterud <<trond.trosterud>>

hard to tell, as the
make v-paradigm WORD=vællahit
function is broken for smj.

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Comment 1515

Date: 2007-06-12 12:54:30 +0200
From: Trond Trosterud <<trond.trosterud>>

it is still open.

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Comment 1516

Date: 2007-06-12 12:57:02 +0200
From: Trond Trosterud <<trond.trosterud>>

Lexical string ('q' = quit): vællahit
Surface string ('q' = quit): vællahit
#:0
v
æ
l
l
a
REJECTED: "æ:e Diphthong Simplification 1" fails in state 17.

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Comment 1517

Date: 2007-06-12 13:02:48 +0200
From: Trond Trosterud <<trond.trosterud>>

The bug is fixed iwhtout the fifth line of this rule:
"æ:e Diphthong Simplification 1"
æ:e <= [ #: | Cns: | Dummy: ] _ LowerG12 o: X4: j ; !6 Ill
[ #: | Cns: | Dummy: ] _ LowerG12 o: (Cns:) [ Y1: | Y2: | Y3: | Y4: | Y5: | X7: | X4: (X8:) | [Q1:|Q4:] X4: X8:] ; !7 Long pass, Dim and Prs Sg3 etc. !Px Nom, acc, gen
! [ #: | Cns: | Dummy: ] _ LowerG12 o: (Cns:) [ Y1: | Y2: | Y3: | Y4: | Y5: | Y7: | Y9: | X7: ] ; !7 Long pass, Dim and Prs Sg3 etc.
[ #: | Cns: | Dummy: ] _ LowerG12 o: Cns:+ X5: Vow ; !8 odd-syll, oblique
! [ #: | Cns: | Dummy: ] _ LowerG12 a: ; ! WeG of a-stems !Errouneously gives vællahit:vellahit
[ #: | Cns: | Dummy: ] _ LowerG12 o:u [ Q1: | Q4: ] X5: j n ([a:|i:]) ; !Px Com
[ #: | Cns: | Dummy: ] _ G32 o:u WeG: ;
[ #: | Cns: | Dummy: ] _ G32 a: WeG: ;

So, the question is how to keep the fifth line without making vællahit crash.

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Comment 1518

Date: 2007-06-12 13:04:03 +0200
From: Thomas Omma <<thomas.omma>>

is it possible to:
væ1llahit
?

• Twol-rule

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Comment 1519

Date: 2007-06-12 13:07:25 +0200
From: Trond Trosterud <<trond.trosterud>>

"æ:e Diphthong Simplification 1"
æ:e <= [ #: | Cns: | Dummy: ] _ LowerG12 o: X4: j ; !6 Ill
! [ #: | Cns: | Dummy: ] _ LowerG12 a: ;
! WeG of a-stems !Errouneously gives vællahit:vellahit

Just to make it readable. The problem is thus the rule with æ:e Cns: a.

Question: is the thing here that we have a grade 3? In that case, we should do
væl0lahit:væl'lah in the lexicon

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Comment 1520

Date: 2007-06-12 13:08:20 +0200
From: Thomas Omma <<thomas.omma>>

yes, try: væl0lahit:væl'lah !!

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Comment 1521

Date: 2007-06-12 13:19:12 +0200
From: Trond Trosterud <<trond.trosterud>>

So, the error was that vællahit was registered with G2 and not with G3, l'l. I changed it, and our diphthong simpl rule then stopped hitting. A victory for our G123 work last year!
Anyone spotting a grade 3 word in the lexicon errouneously put there as grade 2, please change it.
(should be væl0lahit:væl'lah etc.)

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