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lutetiensis avatar lutetiensis commented on June 20, 2024 1

JKUWXYZ initials don't exist, but the letters could be borrowed from's Dürer's capital letters (and here) which seem very close.

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bt2901 avatar bt2901 commented on June 20, 2024

This link does not have JUW.

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bt2901 avatar bt2901 commented on June 20, 2024

I think the J from this page comes close:
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ETA: or from here https://www.fromoldbooks.org/Various-InitialLetters/pages/alphabets-18thc-amsterdam-155/

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georgd avatar georgd commented on June 20, 2024

JKUWXYZ initials don't exist, but the letters could be borrowed from's Dürer's capital letters which seem very close.

I’m sorry, but the Dürer letters are a different style, created almost 100 years earlier, still closer to calligraphic writing than the Garamond style letters.

I think the J from this page comes close:
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ETA: or from here https://www.fromoldbooks.org/Various-InitialLetters/pages/alphabets-18thc-amsterdam-155/

Both of them are even further away from the Garamond style than Dürer's. Although I hate to say it, I’m quite confident that we won’t find a good drop-in for JKUWXY and that they will have to be drawn from scratch. A tiny chance might exist for Z but it’s not very probable.

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lutetiensis avatar lutetiensis commented on June 20, 2024

JKUWXYZ initials don't exist, but the letters could be borrowed from's Dürer's capital letters which seem very close.

I’m sorry, but the Dürer letters are a different style, created almost 100 years earlier, still closer to calligraphic writing than the Garamond style letters.

You're right, but that could serve as a base if we intend to create the missing initials. :)

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georgd avatar georgd commented on June 20, 2024

Oh, the letters themselves are not the issue for me. I have sources for most of them and I'm capable of drawing the missing ones. It's the ornament what I'm struggling with.

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bt2901 avatar bt2901 commented on June 20, 2024

I see, the ornaments are indeed difficult to imitate. Could something from Historic design in printing serve as inspiration?

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bt2901 avatar bt2901 commented on June 20, 2024

After some thought, I think that initials by William Morris could be a good fit.

These designs should be public domain, e.g. see https://freesvg.org/william-morris-letter-i
I was unable to find all letters collected in a single place with proper attribution, but it appears that this website got them all as font: https://www.dafont.com/goudy-initialen.font
And this one provides them as SVG: https://pixabay.com/vectors/alphabet-english-font-vintage-4244798/

That's my super quick and dirty mock-up of what would initials look like if added to the current font. It is obvious that the design should be significantly simplified, but the ornamental elements (curved lines, leaves, and flowers) and overall shape seem consistent with EB Garamond.

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lutetiensis avatar lutetiensis commented on June 20, 2024

@georgd I haven't abandonned this. My computer died a month ago and I cannot work on this anymore... for now...

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