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everythingfunctional avatar everythingfunctional commented on May 9, 2024 1

I vote for 2 as well. I think the two are sufficiently different, but knowing it's out there we can be conscious to avoid confusion as much as possible.

On a side note, should we use that tool to create our Linux packages?

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milancurcic avatar milancurcic commented on May 9, 2024 1

This is unfortunate, though not surprising.

As the originator of the name, I'm sorry. I should've done better research. :(

My preference is also for 2, because I like the name. However I see issues ahead of us, and it will only be more difficult to rename later. Issues are:

  • Confusion
  • Conflict (both CLI tools are called fpm)
  • Bad look on us as the community, as we are a younger project

On a side note, should we use that tool to create our Linux packages?

Though it sounds like a good idea, now we're really screwed: "So fpm will package fpm for Linux. Wait, which fpm is this? Is it this fpm or the other fpm?". I'm confused already. :)

So I vote for 2., if there is a way to do it.

Let's discuss how we could do it. This would probably mean putting a large disclaimer at the top of our README, saying "This fpm is not the other fpm", or similar. What else?

@jordansissel Do you have any advice for us?

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jordansissel avatar jordansissel commented on May 9, 2024 1

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everythingfunctional avatar everythingfunctional commented on May 9, 2024 1

I am in agreement. Good call just reaching out and asking, and thank you @jordansissel for your understanding and encouragement.

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nshaffer avatar nshaffer commented on May 9, 2024 1

The fpm help text gave me an idea for an alternate name.

wwf - working with Fortran

It seems like the naming crises has passed, but I'm just too tickled by the idea of scientists and engineers co-opting "WWF" to mean their package manager.

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milancurcic avatar milancurcic commented on May 9, 2024

Jordan, thanks a lot. With your encouragement I now feel more comfortable keeping the name, and making it clear in the README to avoid confusion.

So if @certik and @everythingfunctional agree, we'll add the clarification and link to the top of the README.

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certik avatar certik commented on May 9, 2024

@jordansissel thank you for your nice comment. Since you are ok with us keeping the name, I am too. @milancurcic yes, let's send a PR with a clarification at the top of our README and docs. That should make it clear to users.

I agree with Jordan that there are ways around it. For example Debian has the alternatives system, so users will be able to choose what they want to run as fpm.

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certik avatar certik commented on May 9, 2024

Here is an example how Spack disambiguates the name:

https://spack.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

They write:

These are docs for the Spack package manager. For sphere packing, see pyspack.

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