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DovOps avatar DovOps commented on June 19, 2024 2

In order for everyone to help facilitate informed voting, @mcleo-d can you please share the implications of this decision (vs not going in this direction)?

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mindthegab avatar mindthegab commented on June 19, 2024 1

Can I suggest to name the SIG "Regulated DevOps" or "Compliant DevOps" or even "RegDevOps" and just drop mutualization? Meaning it's kinda obvious we're looking to mutualize, we're an open source community :)

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mcleo-d avatar mcleo-d commented on June 19, 2024

Thanks for your feedback @DovOps. Please find below FINOS documentation on Special Interests Groups that could help answer the question. I'll add more information as we progress through the call 👍

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jbjonesjr avatar jbjonesjr commented on June 19, 2024

Wikipedia defines a Special Interest Group as

A Special Interest Group (SIG) is a community within a larger organization with a shared interest in advancing a specific area of knowledge, learning or technology where members cooperate to affect or to produce solutions within their particular field, and may communicate, meet, and organize conferences.

Not one to love citing the wiki in the sky as a primary source, but we seem to fit all the qualification questions:

  • Shared Interest in a specific area: Advancing Compliant DevOps processes in our orgs
  • Members cooperate: Great participation already
  • Produce Solutions: We can only hope!

The key question to me, "Is this a working group or a Special Interest Group", right now, we seem tightly scoped enough to be a SIG, with perhaps a path to WG later. If someone can find more official LF program differentiation of a SIG vs a WG, you're google-fu is better than mine!

In light of that, i'm 👍 to proposing this as a SIG

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mcleo-d avatar mcleo-d commented on June 19, 2024

@DovOps, @jbjonesjr and Team,

Please find below the FINOS definition of a Special Interest Group (SIG) that I've highlighted from the following FINOS Governance document - https://github.com/finos/community/blob/master/governance/README.md

Special Interest Groups

Special Interest Groups can be proposed by any FINOS Member (and only by FINOS Members) and are approved by the Governing Board, which also appoints the initial SIG chair. Over time the SIG can decide to vote in a new Chair or the Board can appoint one. Read more for a list of current SIGs and how to propose a new SIG.

Community Governance

FINOS also hosts Special Interest Groups (SIGs) which are forums where community members sharing an interest in a certain topic discuss ideas, compare experiences, and consider common solutions (which may or may not take the form of new open source software or standards projects).

All FINOS projects and SIGs are expected to observe the FINOS Collaborative Principles, Meeting Procedures and recommended to follow Branding Guidelines.

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Comparing the FINOS definition to @jbjonesjr's wikipedia definition, FINOS SIGs aren't obliged to produce physical materials and can keep the scope to sharing thoughts and experiences only.

If a SIG decides to produce physical materials, this can be done within the SIG or done as an independent project created as a SIG recommendation.

I hope that helps with the vote?

Produce Solutions: We can only hope! 🚀🚀🚀

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mcleo-d avatar mcleo-d commented on June 19, 2024

Hi,

The question Should we consider DevOps Mutualization a Special Interest Group is closing on Wednesday 9th September 2020 since being opened on 29th July 2020.

Please cast your vote with a thumbs up 👍 on the main body of the issue here ... #61 (comment)

For those wanting the definition of a Special Interest Group, this can be found below ...

FINOS Governance : Community Governance
FINOS Special Interest Groups are forums where community members sharing an interest in a certain topic discuss ideas, compare experiences, and consider common solutions (which may or may not take the form of new open source software or standards projects).

To directly answer @DovOps question ...

In order for everyone to help facilitate informed voting, @mcleo-d can you please share the implications of this decision (vs not going in this direction)?

The implications of creating a DevOps Mutualization Special Interest Group is that the group will be recognised by the FINOS board and will be provided with access to the FINOS community, the mechanisms and infrastructure to operate and the platform needed to distribute future potential work.

Without the above, DevOps Mutualization will not be housed or supported by the foundation.

I look forward to receiving your vote.

James.

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mcleo-d avatar mcleo-d commented on June 19, 2024

Hi all,

I have now officially closed DevOps Mutualization issue #61 (comment) after receiving 9 successful votes that provide a positive yes answer the following question ...

Should we consider DevOps Mutualization a Special Interest Group now SIGs have been introduced to FINOS?

Thank you for voting on this question, which will now be taken to the FINOS board for their feedback and potential SIG approval.

James.

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