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Soteria-Smart-Contracts avatar Soteria-Smart-Contracts commented on June 26, 2024 2
  • Tweets cannot be directly or indirectly looking for people to buy a service or an asset
  • If it is a retweet, the same rule applies.
  • Tweets about projects must be straightforward in their reasoning, so no things like (Follow account to stay updated!)
  • If a tweet is about a project, it must be marked at the end if that tweet was pushed by the owner or contributor to that project
  • If there is a conflict of interest between the person tweeting and a reviewer, then the reviewer must not be implicated in the review process for that tweet and can request another reviewer to take his/her place. (If a tweeter is aware of a conflict of interest, then they can add it to the push details)

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IstoraMandiri avatar IstoraMandiri commented on June 26, 2024 2

Only link to apps/projects via the eth.org website, so that people can see the disclaimer.

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 avatar commented on June 26, 2024 1

No drama and stay classy is to vague. It's better to specify imho. How are you gonna check if it ain't a scam? Again 4 bullet points is a good start for a sense of direction.
Stating what you can't do gives it a negative impression. Setting expectations seems like a more positive approach.

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TheCrowbill avatar TheCrowbill commented on June 26, 2024 1
  • All tweets must conform to the Twitter rules and policies found here.

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IstoraMandiri avatar IstoraMandiri commented on June 26, 2024 1

I think we should add a rule about not having naked retweets, meaning we always require some text along with the retweet.

  • If we add text to the tweet we can add context and hashtags
  • No-text retweets do not create shareable links
  • When other people retweet the our naked retweet it will not credit our account (appear in other's timelines)

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IstoraMandiri avatar IstoraMandiri commented on June 26, 2024

Only link to apps/projects via the eth.org website, so that people can see the disclaimer.

Another approach to this is ethereumclassic/tweets-etc_network#40

Basically, we can retweet other twitter handles as long as the tweet contains one link only to the project on our website. I think this is a good approach as it naturally creates cross-promotion

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IstoraMandiri avatar IstoraMandiri commented on June 26, 2024

Until we have a better way of doing this, I encourage all maintainers to copy and paste the verified line in the preview before making the first approval similar to ethereumclassic/tweets-etc_network#41 (comment)

The preview can be checked in the checks tab, and has to be manually triggered for new contributors

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IstoraMandiri avatar IstoraMandiri commented on June 26, 2024

@w1g0 You mentioned this regarding retweet etiquette, how opinionated is too opinionated?

For context, the retweet of https://twitter.com/ChuckSRQ/status/1572353721228742656 may be considered too opinionated.

I gave up the Ethereum Classic twitter account because I did not want to devote the time and work required. If the team running it now, doesn’t believe in the project, they should give it to someone that does want to put in the work.

Would "Retweet != Endorsement" disclaimer in bio would help?

ethereumclassic/tweets-etc_network@90ebec6#commitcomment-84623711

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brolal avatar brolal commented on June 26, 2024

this may help for a starting point:
Accuracy. in photographs and design and sound and video clips as well as in articles.
Independence. fair, transparent, professional, and helpful.
Disclose. relevant information that may have influenced or affected $ETC. decisions.
Provide readers with sufficient information
Meaningful context. Assess and judge the material we publish.

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 avatar commented on June 26, 2024

@w1g0 You mentioned this regarding retweet etiquette, how opinionated is too opinionated?

For context, the retweet of https://twitter.com/ChuckSRQ/status/1572353721228742656 may be considered too opinionated.

I gave up the Ethereum Classic twitter account because I did not want to devote the time and work required. If the team running it now, doesn’t believe in the project, they should give it to someone that does want to put in the work.

Would "Retweet != Endorsement" disclaimer in bio would help?

90ebec6#commitcomment-84623711

If the content has value to contribute without invoking the possibility of further drama, the solution I suggest is to rewrite the content and not to retweet it.

No disclaimer, keep the messaging positive, relevant, objective and no negative Nancy's on the steering wheel of the ETC starship.

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 avatar commented on June 26, 2024

With regards to the EIP (ethereumclassic/tweets-etc_network#65) tweet suggested by @bobsummerwill, regardless if I support the idea or not, it gives the impression that when proposer and reviewer agree it reflects the support of the whole ETC community which was further explained in the reasoning. If community members support a certain idea they are able to retweet with their account and not use the @etc_network handle to amplify their ideas. Please, I encourage to be more objective with regards to what has been decided and ask unbiased questions to hear the voice of the community.

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IstoraMandiri avatar IstoraMandiri commented on June 26, 2024

I think anyone should be able to propose tweets, even (or especially) if it is their own idea.

As proposers cannot approve their own proposals, it is a separate issue of whether or not such proposals get approved, and should be done so objectively as possible using a well defined and agreed-upon checklist, as we are attempting to define here.

Once this checklist is defined, we should require 2 approvals, but right now it's set to 1 to facilitate testing.

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IstoraMandiri avatar IstoraMandiri commented on June 26, 2024

For the record, I am intentionally leaning towards approving tweets that are not obviously objectionable or self-promotional, as this encourages contributions.

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IstoraMandiri avatar IstoraMandiri commented on June 26, 2024

@w1g0 we should absolutely not interpret retweets as endorsements and make this clear to followers.

Otherwise, we'd be unable to retweet anything, as we cannot reflect the diverse set of views of the ETC community.

For exmaple, during the SHA3 debate, as was with the community calls, it was better to amplify both sides of the debate, rather than attempting to avoid it all together.

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IstoraMandiri avatar IstoraMandiri commented on June 26, 2024

I think that ideally we should be tweeting to multiple accounts with their own set of rules, inheriting from an overall set of basic rules, possible after ethereumclassic/tweets-etc_network#66

This helps settle disputes here and allows us to fork into new accounts should we need it.

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 avatar commented on June 26, 2024

I think anyone should be able to propose tweets, even (or especially) if it is their own idea.

Sure, anyone can suggest whatever they want but are you going to review all the proposals? Even if someone automates a Denial Of Service attack? This will get messy real soon, especially in bull markets.

@w1g0 we should absolutely not interpret retweets as endorsements and make this clear to followers.

There's a way you want it to operate (intention) and how the majority on Twitter interprets retweets (repercussion), this is prone to evil based on good intention. A simple disclaimer won't change this...

ps: For now I will do my best to only review factual statements and question subjective ones until better rules are written out. You made clear that this is still in Beta, that might work in your head @IstoraMandiri but the majority is not aware. Here a disclaimer as signature might work imho.

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IstoraMandiri avatar IstoraMandiri commented on June 26, 2024

Donald mentioned on the latest call that the following two topics should be used to generate engagement:

  • Price action
  • Politics

Explained here https://youtu.be/kOJOb-iA9uI?t=3159

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IstoraMandiri avatar IstoraMandiri commented on June 26, 2024

Case studies:

https://twitter.com/bitcoin
https://twitter.com/ethereum

BTC + ETH = ETC ?

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IstoraMandiri avatar IstoraMandiri commented on June 26, 2024

#15

If we make edits, we should always get a confirmation from the original submitter before merging.

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bobsummerwill avatar bobsummerwill commented on June 26, 2024

Moved to #16.

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 avatar commented on June 26, 2024

Moved to ethereumclassic/tweets-eth_classic#16.

@bobsummerwill, I would leave this issue open for inspiration and to define the rules for @etc_network as it might slightly differ to serve a complimentary purpose.

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IstoraMandiri avatar IstoraMandiri commented on June 26, 2024

Comments from @brolal in the other thread

Not sure we need rules if we push the number of approvals to 5-6.
If we do a spin first, we can find out what is good or bad, and decide for a rule imo
Other then that, the path is clear: get handler verified as an organization
https://help.twitter.com/en/managing-your-account/about-twitter-verified-accounts#creators

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TheCrowbill avatar TheCrowbill commented on June 26, 2024

In an effort to create a meaningful distinction between the two TT accounts as well as to address some of the concerns about objectivity in content, I propose that all tweets from the eth_classic handle should be written from the point of view of the ETC blockchain itself. The ETC_Network handle can then be used more loosely for such things as retweets of others' comments about ETC or community news, etc.

If a proposed tweet can't pass a test of "If it had a voice, would the chain itself say...." then that tweet would not be acceptable from the eth_classic handle. This test should greatly reduce issues about whether tweeted content appears to be biased when the subject is a topic on which the community has not reached a clear consensus.

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IstoraMandiri avatar IstoraMandiri commented on June 26, 2024

Styling guides

  • Use double spaced new lines
  • Use hashtags
  • Emojis!

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 avatar commented on June 26, 2024

Do we like a Hashtag footer?
a minimum advised set of tags...
I like #EthereumClassic when it's about content,
$ETC when it's about price action for example.

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Tweaker177 avatar Tweaker177 commented on June 26, 2024

@w1g0 >

We should include both IMO as many people use tools that count daily, weekly, monthly useage of #EthereumClassic and $ETC as indicators of market sentiment as well as overall activity on chain. It’s why I try to tweet with them included as much as possible, so it adds to the number, along with re-tweets.

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 avatar commented on June 26, 2024

We should include both IMO as many people use tools that count daily, weekly, monthly useage of #EthereumClassic and $ETC as indicators of market sentiment as well as overall activity on chain. It’s why I try to tweet with them included as much as possible, so it adds to the number, along with re-tweets.

Sounds good to me 👍

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IstoraMandiri avatar IstoraMandiri commented on June 26, 2024

Please move further discussion to #32

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