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matentzn
commented on June 19, 2024
I think NBO classes should be used only to model behavior performed by the annotated specimen, and ENVO to model external behavior received/exposed to..
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diatomsRcool
commented on June 19, 2024
OK, that makes sense. I feel like I've heard you say that before. Apologies, if I'm making you repeat.
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matentzn
commented on June 19, 2024
Nahhh :P Not at all! Just wondering wether @pbuttigieg also agrees!
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cmungall
commented on June 19, 2024
I am unsure. I don't think we want to generally shadow NBO activities in
ENVO but I can see the argument for doing this in special cases.
E.g. "landscape of fear"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5600181/
Also I think a term in ENVO for something like "landscape of kindness"
would be delightful
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Nahhh :P Not at all! Just wondering wether @pbuttigieg
<https://github.com/pbuttigieg> also agrees!
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pbuttigieg
commented on June 19, 2024
I can see this happening, and of great utility to ontologies like SDGIO.
This could work with our "hazard" semantics in SDGIO: a landscape of fear would be an environmental system within which there exist processes where system components relaise hazard dispositions with increased frequency.
That would accommodate the idea that some component (continuant) must have participated in a process involving violence.
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diatomsRcool
commented on June 19, 2024
@cmungall we could use both for STAGE, actually ;)
How about a "hazardous environment" and a "pleasant environment" and then I can subclass as needed?
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cmungall
commented on June 19, 2024
I think making it a system is too strong? The boundaries of the landscape
don't necessarily have any borders with common determinants. Unless we
think this is a system 'determined by' a shark/wolf etc... but this gets
even stranger for socioeconomic landscapes.
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I can see this happening, and of great utility to ontologies like SDGIO.
This could work with our "hazard" semantics in SDGIO: a landscape of fear
would be an environmental system within which there exist processes where
system components relaise hazard dispositions with increased frequency.
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cmungall
commented on June 19, 2024
Yep - but let's not build in anthropocentrism to ENVO. These will always be
relative to one organisms' or population of organisms' perspective.
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@cmungall <https://github.com/cmungall> we could use both for STAGE,
actually ;)
How about a "hazardous environment" and a "pleasant environment" and then
I can subclass as needed?
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diatomsRcool
commented on June 19, 2024
Should I go ahead and to a PR or is there a more appropriate way forward?
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diatomsRcool
commented on June 19, 2024
I think making it a system is too strong?
Is that because a system is a subclass of material entity? What about making them subclasses of environmental zone?
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cmungall
commented on June 19, 2024
yes:
def: "A site which has its extent determined by the presence or influence
of one or more components of an environmental system or the processes
occurring therein." []
zone seems ideal
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I think making it a system is too strong?
Is that because a system is a subclass of material entity? What about
making them subclasses of environmental zone?
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