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lbarman avatar lbarman commented on August 20, 2024 1

Hi hiromipaw,
Thanks very much for your input. We think it’s addressed in our FAQ, see answer P5 there.

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noci2012 avatar noci2012 commented on August 20, 2024 1

Requiring TOR might help increase the efficiency and help improve TOR as well as mitigating virus data collection.

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hiromipaw avatar hiromipaw commented on August 20, 2024

Hi @lbarman,
thanks for replying on this one. I have had a difficult week and didn't have time to get back to you sooner.
My suggestion regarding mixnets or directly passing some of the connections through the Tor network was just a part of what I was trying to convey.

I think also considering delaying the activation of the app, or making this process async for the backend, could be a mitigation possibility.
What I would try to avoid is 3rd party learning about the user health status and using that data.

For example it could be possible for the app to activate itself offline and start sending communication to the backend at a later point.

Furthermore, while the Tor network wouldn't possibly scale to serve all these users, in its current form, it would still be possible to just protect the first messages the app sends, and not the full traffic.

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lbarman avatar lbarman commented on August 20, 2024

hi @hiromipaw; thanks for your message.

What I would try to avoid is 3rd party learning about the user health status and using that data.

This is crucial, we agree!

For example it could be possible for the app to activate itself offline and start sending communication to the backend at a later point.

Yes, why not. The "problem" with specifying this is that this [activation] part will likely be country-specific (each having a specific way of contacting/authenticating their health authorities, country X wanting a QR-code while country Y wants a phone call with a doctor). Without concrete details, it's hard to tell whether Tor/Mixnets/delaying/padding/chaff traffic would help or not. Otherwise we could say "send exactly these messages of these sizes in that order" to avoid leaking information.

But we are aware of the problem, one option would be to propose one recommended way to do this activation/upload.

edit: hence our general recommendation that non-infected users also regularly upload dummy data (with an invalid authorization from the medical authority)

Thanks! Happy to discuss more if you have other inputs

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