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mrocklin avatar mrocklin commented on June 9, 2024 1

FWIW I think that the system referred to above is used by systems that are on AWS machines that have an IAM role attached and use that rather than AWS secret keys in environment variables. Systems know to go and read a local available endpoint to get access tokens.

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r3stl355 avatar r3stl355 commented on June 9, 2024

As far as I know, deltalake expects all the AWS parameters to be defined in the environment, exactly as you noted @Shershebnev.

~/.aws/* files on Linux/Mac are managed by AWS cli, and boto3 being an AWS SDK piggybacks on it to get the profile configs. If we implement the same/similar in deltalake then we'd have to either implement a dependency on AWS cli (or some sub-component of it) which, if possible, would just create another dependency we'd have to maintain, or use the "knowledge" of the possible locations of these files but this will have to be OS file system specific, and will also create a dependency on the corresponding file format.

To summarize, I don't see this as something that should be prioritized but If there is a strong support for implementing this I can have a stab

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ion-elgreco avatar ion-elgreco commented on June 9, 2024

@r3stl355 Polars for example parses these files to grab the credentials, could likely take inspiration from that implementation

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r3stl355 avatar r3stl355 commented on June 9, 2024

Yes @ion-elgreco, looks like Polars is using the second approach I mentioned - looking into specific files config and credentials files it "knows" may exist. However, it uses hard-code paths like "~/.aws/credentials" which, I believe, will break on Windows, hence there will be a need to handle OS specific file system as I mentioned

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rtyler avatar rtyler commented on June 9, 2024

Some of this will go away with #1601 fwiw, right now there's kind of a hodge-podge of configuration possibilities between object_store and some of the rusoto crates we depend on

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mrocklin avatar mrocklin commented on June 9, 2024

I don't see this as something that should be prioritized but If there is a strong support for implementing this I can have a stab

Speaking from a Dask perspective I'd certainly like to throw weight behind this. We certainly find that people commonly use .aws directories in their home directories. The ROI on looking for and parsing those files is hopefully fairly high. It's a common practice. With regards to Windows machines, I'm not sure what the convention there is, but I suspect that there is a fairly similar one. Hopefully addressing that convention as well is an easy switch.

In the meantime, can I ask what mechanisms are available to specify AWS credentials? Is it just environment variables? Is there something people can do to specify these programmatically in the meantime?

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wjones127 avatar wjones127 commented on June 9, 2024

In the meantime, can I ask what mechanisms are available to specify AWS credentials?

Environment variables or passing to storage_options parameter:

>>> storage_options = {"AWS_ACCESS_KEY_ID": "THE_AWS_ACCESS_KEY_ID", "AWS_SECRET_ACCESS_KEY":"THE_AWS_SECRET_ACCESS_KEY"}
>>> dt = DeltaTable("../rust/tests/data/delta-0.2.0", storage_options=storage_options)

https://delta-io.github.io/delta-rs/usage/loading-table/

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jrbourbeau avatar jrbourbeau commented on June 9, 2024

Thanks for the example showing AWS_ACCESS_KEY_ID + AWS_SECRET_ACCESS_KEY being used @wjones127. That was useful

The system I'm running on uses AWS_CONTAINER_CREDENTIALS_FULL_URI for managing AWS credentials (https://docs.aws.amazon.com/sdkref/latest/guide/feature-container-credentials.html). I tried passing AWS_CONTAINER_CREDENTIALS_FULL_URI via storage_options but unfortunately it didn't work (I access denied errors when trying to write a deltatable). It'd be great if other authentication options like AWS_CONTAINER_CREDENTIALS_FULL_URI were supported.

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danieldiamond avatar danieldiamond commented on June 9, 2024

Great to see this is a recent thread - I've gone down a rabbit hole determining if IAM roles could be used in delta-rs (but looking at arrow-rs issues: apache/arrow-rs#4556 and apache/arrow-rs#4238)

I'm trying to use delta-rs using IAM role attached to ECS task and finding it very hard to believe you can't (and that you have to use AWS KEYS).

Can you confirm that you cannot use IAM roles to write delta lake tables to S3?

+1 to the points above

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