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cpfaff avatar cpfaff commented on August 20, 2024

@EichenbergBEF We could also take inspiration from the geobon initiative on essential biodiversity variables for our top ten list. What do you think about these.

http://www.geobon.org/Downloads/articles/2013/201303_ebv_table.pdf

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EichenbergBEF avatar EichenbergBEF commented on August 20, 2024

I think the quite generic structure and naming of these factors is great
and we should really stick to such a generality in determining the
control facotrs (top 10 list). This is quite appealing to have very
general control factor classes.

However, I think this list really lacks some important aspects. I mean
there is no class allowing to refer to e.g. soil measurements (e.g. pH
value, granulary usw.).
e.g. "Soil physicochemical parameters" (I know "physicochemical" is more
than a single concept, but let's take this for now) as a Control
parameter, which the comprises "soil nutrient status", "pH-value", usw.
these more generic classes can then (where really necessary) be broken
down into "Soil chemical parameters" (which comprises pH-vale, nuritents
etc) and "Soil physical parameters (which then may comprise soil
moisture, soil gtranularity).

The classes within the Control Factors then have to be described in more
detail in the vocabulary, so that the user knows what has to be
categorized as what.

In general I find the approach of "being more general" (e.g. Soil
physicochemical parameters) in the beginning, and then , splitting up
the classes where necessary (Soil physical & Soil chemical) is quite
appealing. If you start from very detailed information which you then
acgglomerate from detailed -> generic, you might easily get lost in the
details, whereas general -> detail may save you from beig too accurate.

Am 20.01.2016 um 13:42 schrieb Claas-Thido Pfaff:

@EichenbergBEF https://github.com/EichenbergBEF We could also use
the the important variables from the geobon initiative on essential
biodiversity variables for out top ten list. What do you think about
these.

http://www.geobon.org/Downloads/articles/2013/201303_ebv_table.pdf


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cpfaff avatar cpfaff commented on August 20, 2024

That is a tough one. We have the same problems as we had with processes. What the hack is a control factor. And that is the problem. It is not something that we just measure and that has necessarily a unit. It might be something that we controlled in our setup which could be almost everything. Maybe we need the workshop here later as you @EichenbergBEF suggested to agree on a best of list and then agree on some sensitive attributes that could be used for a classification.

For now I will try to merge what we have with what is provide by the ebv document.

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cpfaff avatar cpfaff commented on August 20, 2024

After checking them now in more detail and thinking about it I would say they do not help as much as I was hoping. They are sometimes more or less easy measurables and the other time they represent very hard to grasp complex things (e.g. disturbance regime).

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cpfaff avatar cpfaff commented on August 20, 2024

By that I mean they do not solve the problem we have. They are rather of the same kind like what we already have.

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