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JeveGreen avatar JeveGreen commented on June 10, 2024 1

Yes, I understand that. What I'm saying is that all of the tea recipes, both from bag and leaf, provide the same output with no nutritional difference.

There are some differences depending on whether you use bags or leaves, but they are miniscule. On the other hand, foraged dandelions are full of nutrients, whereas the tea bags are basically just flavored tea? I mean, making a batch of dandelion and burdock tea gives you lots of nutrients... I dunno what else to say.

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EternalLaughter avatar EternalLaughter commented on June 10, 2024

I can confirm the Dandelion nutrition issue, they are the same whether you make it from teabags, or real dandelions.
The chamomile tea is also confirmed, it does not get drunk\consumed, and gives no thirst quenching, atleast in the UI, as your thirst "meter" and fullness stays the same.

Interestingly, the tiredness effect of drinking it works, as i held down the button and promtly became deadly tired, heh.

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TealcOneill avatar TealcOneill commented on June 10, 2024

Unless I'm missing something none of the teas have alternate versions depending on whether it was made with fresh ingredients or bags. I don't know why dandelion would be special. It doesn't seem worth it to differentiate them with what will be in actuality minute differences.
As for the chamomile tea; I had no issues drinking spawned tea, tea made from spawned leaves, or spawned bags, or when drinking from any kind of container.

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JeveGreen avatar JeveGreen commented on June 10, 2024

Unless I'm missing something none of the teas have alternate versions depending on whether it was made with fresh ingredients or bags. I don't know why dandelion would be special. It doesn't seem worth it to differentiate them with what will be in actuality minute differences.

The reason they're different recipes is because you need a certain level of survival skill to know how to brew tea from foraged dandelion roots, whereas tea bags are self-explanatory.

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TealcOneill avatar TealcOneill commented on June 10, 2024

Yes, I understand that. What I'm saying is that all of the tea recipes, both from bag and leaf, provide the same output with no nutritional difference.

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TealcOneill avatar TealcOneill commented on June 10, 2024

I get what you mean but most tea leaves have more nutrients than their dried counterparts. Dandelions in game are noted as having more nutrients because one person thought that was a cool/useful thing. If you just want to create a new recipe for fresh dandelion tea then I would say go for it.
My main thought on differentiating them is that then you'll want to make the other fresh teas different and you'll have to come up with nutrient values for each of them before you can do so. Maybe it's worth it but I dunno. Follow your heart πŸ‘Œ

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TheMurderUnicorn avatar TheMurderUnicorn commented on June 10, 2024

Dandelion tea does not inherit information because of the NUTRIENT_OVERRIDE flag, which in my opinion it should not have and I'll change that, this will let it have variable calorie/vitamins based on whether you use fresh ingredients or a teabag.

As for the chamomile, I could not replicate this, both debug chamomile and chamomile I crafted myself were consumed normally. I didn't see anything in the file that would lead me to think this would happen, and the only recent change I saw was to its price, which would not affect this I assume.

EDIT: Actually I will not remove nutrient override from dandelions, because that would cause the tea to have the same number of calories as eating the full dandelion, which is not right. Sorry for confusion.

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