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boltgolt avatar boltgolt commented on July 22, 2024 12

This module is explicitly not made to be more secure than a password, just faster. It's a trade off you have to make.

If you want to you can disable the password for your keyring so it will get unlocked automatically. To do this open "Passwords & keys" from the dash, right click the "Login" keyring and change the password to an empty one.

Please be aware that this is insecure and will make the passwords in that keyring easier to crack. It's about the same level of security as saving passwords in chrome/firefox without a master password.

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wzrdtales avatar wzrdtales commented on July 22, 2024 4

I would say this is rather not an issue but expected. The keyring by default gets decrypted with your password. Which is the only way their storage can be guaranteed to be secure. However once you're logged in the keyring keeps decrypted, so I would consider facial recognition rather a quick way to login you again rather than being the main way to log you in. Which is terribly insecure anyway.

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robquinn avatar robquinn commented on July 22, 2024 1

I don't mean to be mean or negative, but if you have to enter a password, what's even the point of facial recognition? It just adds an unnecessary step if you have to enter your password anyway. Seriously, I'm not trying to be an a-hole, I am open to any feedback that would help me understand this better or whatever.

Don't get me wrong. I think howdy is really cool. I really like it. I just want to better understand the use case.

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robquinn avatar robquinn commented on July 22, 2024 1

@boltgolt I really appreciate the feedback. I get that what I said could be hurtful and taken the wrong way. I'm glad you're level headed and didn't take it that way. You're obviously a cool dude lol. Thanks again 😄

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boltgolt avatar boltgolt commented on July 22, 2024

You make valid points, and i would not recommend Howdy on login if you have to unlock your keychain with a password after that anyway.

There are 2 major use cases here: One group of users users doesn't have a keychain to unlock. For example: If you don't use Chrome on Ubuntu 16.04 and don't have an encrypted home dir then chances are you don't have a keychain active. Another set of users that do have to enter a password only use Howdy for specific authentication types, like sudo and gnome-screensaver, that come after the login screen and thus never require a password.

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boltgolt avatar boltgolt commented on July 22, 2024

No problem! I don' find it hurtful at all, constructive criticism should always be allowed. This wiki article might be useful to you btw

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chocomo99 avatar chocomo99 commented on July 22, 2024

Running Ubuntu 20.04.X LTS. A recent update appears to have installed Skype. I know that's weird. Skype auto-opened after login then prompts me to create an account. Finally I did and then realized I had those services free from other providers. Afterward on login I would get "keyring did not get unlocked" popup. Problem went away after uninstalling Skype. Seems weird but there it is... Once again glad to be off the Microsoft merry-go-round.

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expl0r3rgu1 avatar expl0r3rgu1 commented on July 22, 2024

Running Ubuntu 20.04.X LTS. A recent update appears to have installed Skype. I know that's weird. Skype auto-opened after login then prompts me to create an account. Finally I did and then realized I had those services free from other providers. Afterward on login I would get "keyring did not get unlocked" popup. Problem went away after uninstalling Skype. Seems weird but there it is... Once again glad to be off the Microsoft merry-go-round.

The popup is likely to be gone because Skype was probably the only app on your system that after logging in was waiting for the login keyring to get unlocked.

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AhlamHani avatar AhlamHani commented on July 22, 2024

any way to make the keyring to be encrypted using howdy instead of password? I really don't want to enter the password when doing face recognition it just doesn't make sense, so I have two options 1. disable howdy and forget about logging using my face recognition, 2. make howdy as the primary auth method which I don't have any issue with taking that risk in sake of usability

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boltgolt avatar boltgolt commented on July 22, 2024

That's not possible, but you could set your keyring password to an empty string. This completely disables your keyring encryption and is not recommended

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joezhouchenye avatar joezhouchenye commented on July 22, 2024

Empty string temporarily works. After some time when I rebooted the laptop, the keyring password was reset to the user's password on Ubuntu 23.04 for some unknown reason.

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