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bm98 avatar bm98 commented on July 21, 2024

Hi,
I saw this box im use by the PNG Pilot and was thinking about this as feature since some time already :)
For the GUI, as we don't have a manual interaction and are not limited to physical switches may be there is a more suitable way to implement it. The basic idea for the items and to 'check' them must remain- we are not limited to 2 rows with a computer GUI if no toggle switches are involved.
I appreciate your usability suggestions - helps to make it a workable feature!
Anyway thank you for the call and watch this place ...
Regs

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sonicviz avatar sonicviz commented on July 21, 2024

Awesome, thanks!

The basic idea for the items and to 'check' them must remain- we are not limited to 2 rows with a computer GUI if no toggle switches are involved.

True, but you also don't want to make something big and convoluted, otherwise you may as well just use the inbuilt checklists.
The whole point is to have a "Checklist Box" that is super easy to use in a potentially stressful environment and "just right" in terms of item coverage, but doesn't stray into the zone of information overload.

The checklist box is just a physical implementation of MNEMONIC REMINDERS like https://airwebster.com/2018/03/04/why-i-love-cigar-tips-aka-cciggarr-tipps or https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2000/february/flight-training-magazine/mnemonic-reminders so shouldn't be too big either.

Also customizable based on general aircraft category, not specific plane type: ie: Piston, Turboprop, Small Jet, Large Jet etc

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bm98 avatar bm98 commented on July 21, 2024

Early Dev - I prefer it vertical - side panel, fits usually better and is less obstructiv but still a personal preference..
the Mock Texts are from the PNG Pilot
Logic is 'Airbus' Lights Off is OK - you may check them in any order but usually top down I assume (It is up to the user)
When all are checked it gets a dark greenish background

There are up to 4 Phases (e.g. Takeoff, Cruise, Descend, Land) with up to 10 Checks each for any number of Checklists
Nothing is mandatory and all texts editable.
Context Menu to change the Phases and Checklists, use Config etc.

CheckPanel_Mockup

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sonicviz avatar sonicviz commented on July 21, 2024

Nice!

Is it possible to make the side panel scaleable, or at least different sizes (small/med/large)?

There are up to 4 Phases (e.g. Takeoff, Cruise, Descend, Land) with up to 10 Checks each for any number of Checklists

I like that!

An unobtrusive "meta checkbox" where you could select one (exclusive, only one at a time) to display that checklist (or none) might be useful as well. Pops the checklist up below the meta box.
Would save going down to the Hudbar to hunt and peck for something you might use quite often during the training phase of reinforcement learning. The easier it is to use, the more likely it is to be used.

I could think of a 5th checklist too: Emergency. You could populate it with a generic Aviate, Navigate. Communicate and/or add some specific items related to a specific type of emergency training you are undergoing (for example, atm I'm starting on Multi-engine single engine failure procedures https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_KGu2CFUU4 )

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sonicviz avatar sonicviz commented on July 21, 2024

Nice one with latest beta. Looks good, config simple enough, very configurable.
Let me play with it for a while and see how the UX goes. Thanks!

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bm98 avatar bm98 commented on July 21, 2024

How does it look like?
I am about to get it out to FlightSim.to
thanks for taking time with it.

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sonicviz avatar sonicviz commented on July 21, 2024

I used it for a long bush flight on the weekend.
Seemed ok, no big issues.

Might be useful if it reopened the last used checklist, it seems to default to the first one?
Might also be nice to snap to window border if possible, atm it can slide off screen.

Nothing more atm. Nice, ty.

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