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aap avatar aap commented on June 2, 2024

Yes, I know that site. Would be awesome to get the other two programs you have, even though I have no display on the 6 yet.

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larsbrinkhoff avatar larsbrinkhoff commented on June 2, 2024

You'll probably need ITS. The programs are stored in archive files which are easy to extract in ITS, and they are written in MIDAS.

You can of course install ITS any way you want, but if you follow the instructions in http://github.com/PDP-10/its, please let me know if anything is unclear.

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aap avatar aap commented on June 2, 2024

Hm, now i'm confused. Where do I find this archive? src/bawden doesn't have anything related to space war.

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larsbrinkhoff avatar larsbrinkhoff commented on June 2, 2024

No, we haven't added them to the repository yet. I'm emailing you the files.

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aap avatar aap commented on June 2, 2024

Good, thanks.

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larsbrinkhoff avatar larsbrinkhoff commented on June 2, 2024

Have you had any luck running some program yet?

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aap avatar aap commented on June 2, 2024

I'm working on the DECtape emulation. The recent changes concerning threads was done so that timing will be easier to handle which is important for DECtape. When DECtape is working the task will be to get the TS EXEC up and running.

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b4 avatar b4 commented on June 2, 2024

Is there an assembler? I'm doubtful a 3/4.x MONITOR could be assembled and linked under TOPS-10.

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aap avatar aap commented on June 2, 2024

@rcornwell says he compiled old versions of the monitor. I still haven't tested those as I've not been working on the emulator for like a week. I have some sort of DECtape emulation working already but not inside the pdp-6 emulator yet.

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larsbrinkhoff avatar larsbrinkhoff commented on June 2, 2024

How about "txExec 1.4" on bitsavers? Has anyone converted it to machine readable format?

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aap avatar aap commented on June 2, 2024

rich has done that. I fear that I'm lacking motivation right now. Have to generate a DECtape (and hope that EXEC will work without the user TTYs) and try to boot it.

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rcornwell avatar rcornwell commented on June 2, 2024

They are available at my git site. git.sky-visions.com. Both 1.4 and 4.5. Both compile and link. Neither has been tested. Eventually I will test these.

@aap it is possible to build ts1.4 so that it does not need anything by console and dectape.

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larsbrinkhoff avatar larsbrinkhoff commented on June 2, 2024

@rcornwell You have one called v1.19, is that 1.4?

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rcornwell avatar rcornwell commented on June 2, 2024

Al Mislabeled the listings, if you look in the listings itself you will find version number is 1.19.

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b4 avatar b4 commented on June 2, 2024

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rcornwell avatar rcornwell commented on June 2, 2024

If they are full and not from my git tree I would be interested in at least 4.x source. Specifically segcon.mac. This file is missing from the scanned listings on bitsavers, and is too different to use the one from 3.x or 5.03.

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b4 avatar b4 commented on June 2, 2024

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rcornwell avatar rcornwell commented on June 2, 2024

Well if you want to package them up an send them to me anyway I can see how they compare... this could be some old stuff I got long ago.

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larsbrinkhoff avatar larsbrinkhoff commented on June 2, 2024

We have these standalone programs. It's a bit unclear which run on a PDP-6, but probably most:

  • SYSTEM GEN
  • MACDMP
  • DDT
  • MIDAS
  • STINK
  • TECO
  • MacHack VI
  • Spacewar
  • Dazzle Dart
  • HEART
  • PORNIS
  • GALAXY
  • GAS
  • TITLER
  • BIG (timesharing)
  • MUSCOM (timesharing)
  • TENLOD (timesharing)
  • FLIGHT
  • MLIFE
  • Lisp display slave

Don't have:

  • LISP

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larsbrinkhoff avatar larsbrinkhoff commented on June 2, 2024

@raywjewhurst, if you want to test running some programs on this simulator, I made a list of candidates in the previous comment. We'll help you get started.

The simulator does not yet have all hardware devices necessary for all programs.

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larsbrinkhoff avatar larsbrinkhoff commented on June 2, 2024

We do have LISP now!

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larsbrinkhoff avatar larsbrinkhoff commented on June 2, 2024

There is an ITS binary named JONL; VRYOLD LISP with timestamp 1968-01-01. It looks as if this timestamp was invented after the fact, but still, it would well be a version of Maclisp that ran on the PDP-6.

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larsbrinkhoff avatar larsbrinkhoff commented on June 2, 2024

JOSS-II: https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_memoranda/RM5437.html

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